Keck Resigns from NWTF
 

Hey guys,

Big news in Edgefield, SC. Rob Keck has resigned from the NWTF. Been there forever. Check out the story:

http://www.southernsporting.com/arti...?ArticleID=387

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What do you suppose he made a year?

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i bet he made more than a lot of people make in a lifetime

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Oh the NWTF also has a forum - I know someone published yearly salaries and it was quickly removed that caused a big stir there among its board members.

One thing you can't take away from Keck - he was instrumental in being one of the few who helped us turkey hunters as a whole! Do gotta give kuddos there.

JW

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Doesent look good... I'll bet it has something to do with money un accounted for;)

All 3 of those guy was prob steeling the federation blind...

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I have heard that it was over $400,000.00 a year.

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I agree with Longbeard, something isn't right. Although if you look back at some of the other groups, BASS to be specific, they ran out Ray Scott....a few years later he was back not as the CEO but a spokesman. I talk to Ray after that and he was very supportive of BASS....We'll see and I just re-upped and got two Jakes memberships too, Monday....

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Now who will host Turkey call?? :(haha

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I believe WYObowfisher is in the ballpark in the salary. And while that seems ungodly to most of us working stiffs, when you figure on what a lot of CEOs of big dollar companies make, that's not so much. Of course, I've always made it a policy not to weep for those who make more than I do (and I'll never see that kind of money). For what it's worth though, the Federation fluorished under his leadership and love him or hate him, he was a driving force in its growth.

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I think it's long over due!! Those guys in the upper 3-4 positions thought they were in for life. We needed new blood in the NWTF for a long time. Now all they have to do is place term limits on how long those jobs can be held by a person.;)

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I'll gladly accept the position, but I won't take a penny under $475,000. After all, I want to make sure I make more money heading a turkey federation than the President of the United States makes.

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I just saw somewhere on TV where they listed the salary of a bunch of the heads of several oragnizations. NWTF, RMEF, SCI, DU. Keck made the most if I remember correctly, $325K. They all make a bundle.

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Love him or hate him he did help the turkey populations across the country!
Maybe someone else could have done the same thing given the timing of the start of the Federation and all but he was the man who was there.
This may be a change for the better or maybe it will just make another person richer than you and me!!!

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Keck was last listed at $380,000 + You need to figure in his expense account, promotional budget etc etc.

This is not guessing as far as promotional and such. I used to work for them so I know a little about how things worked as well as what was going on and have heard this was coming to a head soon. Well i guess it finally popped.

I will say they still have plenty of other issues there to deal with caused by one of the three who are leaving.

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Shocker.

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400K for being the head of a not for profit orginization ain't too shabby.

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He can probably make more now as the CEO of a private company. Running a large non-profit org is a lot of work, he probably earned every penny. Now if he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar helping himself to a little extra, thats reprehensible!

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That's what I was thinking as well!!! I'm sure that had something to do with it!! I bet they demanded all upper people to take a huge pay cut, and of course they must of balked at that thought. Pity!!!:(

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They are a great organization. Hopefully with change comes some positive actions. They have didalot for turkeys & hunters alike. I'm sure the NWTFwill continue & flourish

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I have been on this story since yesterday and have talked to a number of people inside and outside of the organization. I even worked there myself for awhile am aware of some of the assets and liabilities each of the personalities brought to the table through their leadership styles. Just for the record, I have heard of nobody alleging that any wrongdoing was being carried out with the way the organization's finances were being handled. If I do, you can bet I'll be the first to report it.

While it is understandable all of us are speculating on exactly what went on behind closed doors to bring this about, I would hate to hear these guys get falsely slandered for inappropriate actions for which they are not guilty. Like some of you have said, love them or hate them, they were very good for the NWTF at the time and did a lot of good for the wild turkey resource.

Colin Moore wrote an editorial on the matter at southernsporting.com that echoes some of the sentiments I'm hearing. You might want to check it out. The direct link is: http://www.southernsporting.com/arti...?ArticleID=388

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Very well put. I was staying out of this thread for just that reason. Keck is the real deal when it comes to being a turkey hunter, which is a lot more than I can say for a lot of folks you'll see on TV (celebrity hunters), and his contributions to the sport we love are, in my opinion, worth far more than what his salary was. He has helped rebuild an organization that will live on far longer than any of us, and it will ensure that wild turkeys, and turkey hunters will still be a part of this country long into the future.


I thought the article was well put. I'm sure that the whole reason and the whole situation will make itself known. It is a bit odd when someone suddenly resigns, and historically speaking there is often a degree of controversial reasoning behind a quick ejection. Whatever his reasons, I personally thank him for what he has done for our sport and our turkey's, and wish him all the best in the future and happy hunting this spring.

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Well put Swamp Collie

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Man, i really liked that guy too.

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I think it had to do with some those guys were Hunting STATE Ground and the Others was Hunting Private Ground. They were wanting to make it 2 Divisions Public and Private. Keck, said if they couldn't do both he was quiting. The Public-Private Debate is taking over the world of Turkey Hunting.:D

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Turkey Fife

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Well he did work hard - andI do thank him for the programs he started - but the salary thing really bothers me. At $380,000 - and a John Doe's yearly memberships cost is$30.00 - MAN - that is a lot of members thinking their money is being used to further conservation and not pay for some guy to live.

Do think that is overkill......

JW

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Id like to know what the guys on the board at the NRA make in a year.

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I live in Edgefield county, today in the Augusta Chronicle, it said that in 05 he made $360,765 plus $57,156 in expenses, Brown made $293,858 plus $23,287 expenses, and Rosenlieb made $173,977 and $19,384 for expenses. That was the last year that the complete figures were available. NWTF pulled in 48.1 million in 05. Personally I dont have a problem with what they made, but the expense accounts were very high in my opinion (they could have stated that as part of their salaries). The three top exec's of it didnt pull down quite a million combined. For the foundation to have 48 million that year, it could have been a lot worse than that. They have done a lot for the turkey, bringing them back from near extinction. Today, there are turkeys everywhere, and a lot of that is because of their work. It also stated in the Chronicle that NWTF recieved the highest ratings on how they use the money.

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That is a ratio of revenue to resource... or basically how many cents out of every dollar go back to the cause. And I know the NWTF is somewhere above the .80 cents on the dollar mark as to putting money back in to the resource. NWTF is one of the best at spending dollars on making turkeys avavilable to the masses. Delta waterfowl, RMEF and QU are good about that as well.


But.....

If you compare that to DU (which fluctuates), it may seem low. DU usually puts somewhere around.85-.90cents on the dollar back into the ducks (I've seen it as low as .70 cents though)... but... they also take in easily three times what the NWTF does in revenue, and they have a heck of a lot more federal grants and corporate sponsors and a lot of their work (field work) is done by volunteers and graduate students (research and data wise).... and I'd venture a guess that 75% of their money goes to PRIVATELY OWNED projects for the rich to hunt PRIVATELY on. Most of what is left goes to Canada and the PPR. Every single project they have done in my state has been on private land... and thats well over 100 now.