New To Turkey
 

I've deer hunted successfully over the past few years and although i've gone out for turkey once i had no luck.
I am debating on using my 20 gauge shotgun or my 22 mag. I have been doing some scouting and decided on using my blind in a place that will give me a 30 yard shot at most.

My questions are:

1. If i decide on the 20g will 30 yards be too far with a full choke? (the full is what came with the Moss 500)

2. If i decide on the 22mag where would i shoot the bird? I would be using a scoped gun off of shooting sticks in my blind.

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Danny your 20 ga. will work fine. GO pattern that gun.......here is a link to the target I use.
I only count pellet holes in the skull, eye, neck bones8 to 12 is my rule of thumb for a really dead turkey and that pellet count dictates my yardage - though I try to call em in under 20 yards. Try 4s, 5s or 6s copper plated lead = penetrates better,

http://lewand.tripod.com/turkeytargets.html

now in some states it is legal to use a rifle.....not all tho...check you regs.....and turkey huntings' ultimate goal is you call em up close and personal!

But check that a 22 is legal - tho I advise against it. If it is - nd that is what you so chooseaim for the head.....

any body shot - especailly with a shotgun - all ya got is a wounded bird that can get away - quicker than you can imagine.

JW

RE: New To Turkey
 

Good advise JW!

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Thanks JW.
Yeah you can pretty much use any gun you want here in WV. The 22 Mag is fine.
As long as my 20g can get to that range that's what i'll use. I went out tonight and bought a #4 copper plated lead turkey load. I'll pattern it this weekend.
Thanks again

RE: New To Turkey
 

Dont use a .22, thats my #1 suggestion. Pattern your 20ga to see how it is at 30 yards. But at the top of my head I would say 30 max with the full choke.

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Well, bought some #4 3inchand went out with the 20g. With a full choke, using JW's target (bucksnort with the target circles on it) i was only getting 5-8 pellets in the prescribed kill zone(vertebrae and skull)at 30 yards.
The pattern was very wide in my opinion. Approximately 22 inches in diameter.

Would getting an extra full choke and going with #5 (i'm assuming more pellets), generally produce better results.

FYI,
This is the first time i'm trying to pattern a shot gun so i may be way off base in my thinking here. I can dial in a centerfire rifle and understand that just fine but obviously this is a different animal all together

RE: New To Turkey
 

The extra full choke would produce a tighter pattern, but you can stick with your #4 shot shells if they pattern good

RE: New To Turkey
 

If you are using the 20 gauge I would strongly advise you to use Hevi-shot and go with #6s and stay away from #4s. It is a small load to start with (1.25 oz in three inch shells) which means you want the most pellets in my opinion, therefore #6s. Keep your range reasonable (30-35 yards) and you'll be fine. My son's gun (Rem youth 870 express) patterned the Remington Hevi-shot 1.25 oz #6 great before I switched him to Nitros.

I posted a pic my son's first turkey taken Saturday with his 20 gauge. It has a Primos Tightwad choke and he was shooting the Nitro triplex load 4x5x7, 1and 7/16 oz. He absoluted smoked that turkey with multiple head and neck hits at approximately 28 yards.. Very impressive. Those hevishot #7s have plenty of energy at 30-35 yards and there are a zillion of them in there.I truly believe thatload is the ultimate for a 20 gauge.

Someday I may set up a 20 gauge to hunt with myself, but only if I can get my hands on the Nitro shells. That little 20 sure was a pleasure to carry around compared with my Mossberg 835 Ultimag.

Edit: One more thing - spend a few bucks and get a decent turkey choke, one that is ventilated to reduce recoil and strip the wad as the load exits the barrel. You'll get better patterns and your shoulder will thank you for it. You don't have to spend a fortune to get one that will work either.

Good luck

Mouthcaller

RE: New To Turkey
 

mouthcaller,
Thanks for the help.I'm looking for a new choke and i'll get a box of the #6 heavi-shot. I've got a couple of weekends available to me before turkey season starts here. That should give me enough time to figure out what works best. I'm having a harder time finding chokes for my Moss 500 20g than i thought i would.
I appreciate everyone's input.

RE: New To Turkey
 

Danny - let us know what choke you buyfor that Mossberg and how those Hevi-shot #6s pattern in it.

Good luck

Mouthcaller

RE: New To Turkey
 

Make sure the choke you get is rated for hevi-shot if thats what you're going to shoot. Lots of chokes are for lead only. Try some 5's and 6's from different manufacturers and in different loads and see what shoots best. Good luck!

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RI Strut
Thanks for the info. I had no idea that was a requirement.Is this something that is written clearly on the package of the choke that purchase?

RE: New To Turkey
 

I have limited experience, but the last two choke tubes I bought did indicate they were for lead only on the package. Some are marked right on the tube. If you know what chokes you're interested in, ask here or search online. Someone is bound to know and answer your questions. I'm waiting on my Primos Jelly Head. You can shoot hevi shot thru those.

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Stick with the 20 gauge! Good Hunting.... SHOTARYE

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Will shooting Hevi-shot through a tube that says "lead only" hurt anything?

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Just to be clear... If I have a choke tube thatsays lead only and i have ammo that says copper plated lead, i can not shoot it without harming either the choke, barrel or both. Correct?

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You can shoot copper-plated lead out of your "lead only" choke but not "heavier than lead" shot like Hevi-13 or other variants.

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What mouthcaller said- copper plated is okay, hevi shot is not okay. Some would disagree about the hevi, but I wouldn't chance it.