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Nope not serious just something to pass the time and get out there in the woods when the trout fishing is slow!!;)

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With that attitude, why even bother turkey hunting? I've never heard of a not so serious turkey hunter. Either you love it or you don't. Obviously you don't, or you would take the time and get the best possible shells and equipment. Do us a favor and start fishing now, and stay out of the woods this Spring.

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Haha.... I didnt know I had to EAT, SLEEP, BREATHE everything I do?? Im sorry Super didnt know that was the case!! Im fairly new to the whole turkey hunting thing, I DO enjoy it, IT IS a hell of a good time!!!!
Obviously you don't, or you would take the time and get the best possible shells and equipment.
Is this so... so if you were going to take up golfing, bowling, bowhunting, hell anything for the matter, does this mean you are going to go out and buy all the most expensive equipment to go????? Seriously...and if you say that you do then you have more money then brains my friend!

I just never knew it was so bad not to LOVE everything I do, Thank You Superstrutter for clearing that up for me!

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I never said you must have the most expensive things, but in yourcase you are willing to use whatever the hell you can find and go out the next day without ever knowing if and how it's going to work. You have no respect for the game you are hunting if that is your attitude. Go out the day before season and buy whatever they have, regardless of what it is, that's a joke. Obviously I have more brains than you. I don't know about the money, and I could care less. What I do know is, I have much more respect for the Wild Turkey than you. No, you don't have to love something to enjoy doing it, but if you so so like it, why bother doing it. Find something else you like to do better. I don't hunt deer, ducks , and turkeys to pass the time away because I'm waiting for something else. I'm doing it instead of something else, because it is a passion.

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but in yourcase you are willing to use whatever the hell you can find and go out the next day without ever knowing if and how it's going to work.
~~ Never had a problem before?? Its a shotgun, I may not be able to put 200+ bb's in a 10'' circle at 40 yds or at 20yds for that matter but I think I know my limits with what I am equipped with!

What I do know is, I have much more respect for the Wild Turkey than you.
~~ Why is this?? Because you know you can take the risk of shooting out to 40+ yds, I have never done this nor do I intend to with the equipment I have?? Do I think my setup will kill at 40yds... YES!! Do I intend to do it, NO!! I dont think the Turkey will bewondering whether he has 10 or 50 pieces of shot in his head when he is laying on the ground;)!

No, you don't have to love something to enjoy doing it
~~Either you love it or you don't.......I believe thats what you said???

but if you so so like it, why bother doing it.
~~ I believe I cleared this up already

I'm doing it instead of something else, because it is a passion.
~~ Explain to me why I cant do both?? I am out there for the same reason you are, because I want to be, or as you say it is a passion!! I also have a PASSION for fishing as well;)...maybe a lil more but I choose to do both to satisfy my enjoyment for both!!

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Okay, I can see this is going nowhere, so good luck in your hunting and fishing endeavors.

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You too!

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That's why I converted my old Moss500 put on a cheap undertaker choke invested in a few boxes of shells, got a red dot sight and viola!

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The best way to handle it;) Nothing really shocks me nowadays and with how some peoplethink. You tried and I tried it recently with another member on here and it'slike talking to brick wall.

I even post posted the discussion and his postI had with that other memberon here about patterning toan allturkey hunting forum.Well lets just say if I took a poll on the replies posted,thisso called turkey hunteronly had two out of about 20+ turkey hunters that "some what agreed" to his way ofthinking. The other 20+ all have some good names of what kind of person he is :D The real kicker is that you, myself and anyone else not standing by him and his way of thinking are the bad guys because we're not standing/sticking together as hunters.

Again, it doesn't shock me people don't take the time to do it right! It only saddens & scares me that I (and my son someday)have got to spendour passion in the same woods with them.

Good Luck & Hunt Safe
MK-M-GOBL

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Exactly. I have a "friend" that wants so bad for me to take him turkey hunting. He's the type that will buy the cheapest ammo and doesn't believe that spending an hour at the range patterning your gun is worth it. He doesn't own a turkey call and doesn't care to learn either.

He also believes that turkey hunting consists of sitting down by a tree, calling two or three times and PRESTO, there's your turkey! But he wants me to waste my time and call a bird in for him that I've already spent hours patterning just so he can drop the hammer on him and say "he" killed a tom. People like this make me want to vomit.

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Hey WMHW just curious... Beings that you really don't take the whole turkey hunting thing very serious... Do you still manage to kill the big bird??? And if so... How many have you harvested over the years???

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Simp speaks the truth!

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Do you ever post anything of substance or do you just hang out and talk shiat?
Just like the average smib.

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Hold on...I'd say that was an honest question with maybe just a little sarcasm stirred in. But if I had to guess I'd say that WesternMDhardwoods probably has taken a few.Doesn't it always seem like the guys that are the least prepared (no offense WMDhardwoods!) end up getting some of the nicest bucks or turkeys every year?

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As a matter of fact Mr.Longbeard, I just started turkey hunting last year and YES I did manage to take two jakes last spring. Also would you believe one of them was out there about 35yds as well;)[:-]!!
I know just Jakes but I felt damn proud of myself for just getting into it! So go ahead and yell at me for shooting an immature bird, I can take it!

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That dude serves no purpose but to chime in with his 2 cents every once in a while and say something dumb.... over 3000 retarded posts is all it adds up to.
Do what you want and enjoy your right to hunt how you want to as long as its legal. I would recommend patterning a gun though, just to get a good idea of your limitations.

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I know a person or two like that. By the way, thanks for the links for the 300+ pellet hits.

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Hey congrats on you two birds... I know you earned them!!!Any guy that hunts the mountains of Western Md is a friend of mine!!!

As for the smart coment by kj... Most of my comments are towards you silver spoon turkey hunters... You know... The guy who hunts prime private land and kills unpressured turkeys and thinks he's really did something... My Grandmother always told me that the truth hurts;)

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I passed on some jakes last year holding out for a gobbler, all I got was tag soup.This year any legal bird is game! I gotta get my first!

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You mean kinda like these?;)

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008turkeypictures012nk8.jpg

Or this one?;)

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2008turkeypictures019pz2.jpg


Sorry, don't know what you're talking about!;)

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Hmm., silver spoon turkey hunters. Why don't all of us private land owners just go to the grocery store and buy our turkeys? We would save a lot of money, wouldn't we? Longbeard, I may just have to invite you over to my private land, I meanpetting zoo, and show you just how difficult it can be to take a silver spoon gobbler.;)BTW, I wouldn't call my property prime turkey land, but I do havetwoor three longbeards on my place each year that will give you fits.

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I hunt only public land, I don't know anyone here to get permission to hunt the private land.... I've hunted both... and to tell ya the truth, I see no difference, so it may be completely related to your skill level dependant upon what areas you hunt..
I might also suggest that you scout your areas.

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I don't think its a useror even a turkey issue kingjack... I think its a jealousy issue.

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Test fired numerous loads today and a couple really shined throughmy Encore Pro Hunter with a Black Diamond Strike choke from Indian Creek.... wow, what a difference a custom choke and some Hevi-Shot can do!!! [:-]



Pattern on the left is from 40 yards using 3" 1 5/8 oz #6 Hevi-Shot, the pattern on the right is a more "typical" turkey load (Winchester XX #5's)

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Nice pattern!
Ain't it amazing how far we've come from shooting fixed chokesand 100% lead shot,to shooting chokes that are custom made and shells that will do everything lead will do but 10 times better. These ain't our daddy's shotguns anymore!

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I have heard several good things about the Indian Creek choke and the hevi-13 loads. They are producing 200+ pellet hit counts within th magical 10" circle. Congrats on the very nice pattern!! It should definitely do a number on a gobbler!

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My turkey hunting buddy has an Indian Creek .665 and shoots the bronze Hevi-13's out of a Browning Gold and let me say that it throws one heck of a pattern. Almost Nitro like.

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That birds gonna have a bad day if you hit em right:D

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Lol ! Yes sir, certainly gonna ruin a Toms day! :D

I generally bowhunt the birds but this will be the weapon of choice for my 12 year old Daughter. She's pretty excited about the guns performance! :)

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I get 200+ in 10inch circle at 40yds using rhino .660 with 3.5 nitro 4x5x7

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246 in a ten-inch circle at a laser-measured 40 yards (see pic below)

Mossberg 835 Ultimag
Nitro 3.5", 2.25 oz. 4X5X7Hevi-Shot(Load # H51013M)
Star Dot .676 choke
Bushnell 1.75 X 4 Trophy scope, circle X reticle
Limbsaver pad