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Simp 02-02-2008 05:38 PM

Nitro results...
 
I gave a friend of mine 2 3.5" 4x5x7 Hevishot Nitro's to try in his Browning Gold with Kicks .675 and at 40 yards he counted 326 pellets in the magical 10" circle. Why do I shoot Nitro's? That's why.:D

Bobgobble2 02-02-2008 05:49 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
That'll work....;)..No margin for error at 10 yards though...lol...:DHow many pelets are in that load Simp?thats got to be an incredible %.....very nice at 40 yards.WOW[:-]..

Simp 02-02-2008 05:59 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Well, I don't have the heart to cut one up, but I've heard that there is somewhere around 550-600 hevishot pellets in a 3.5" 4x5x7 2.25 ounce load. That's a hell of a payload!

superstrutter 02-02-2008 06:17 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
That's a hell of a dent in the pocket book. Just can't justify buying Nitros when I can kill just as many with Rem. hevi shot mags or Rem. HD's. That does sound pretty awesome at 40 yards though, just not necessary. Looks like it's a dead turkey for you past 30 yards. Under that you better be right on him. If he moves just a little you may miss with that tight ofa pattern.

ICALL2MUCH 02-02-2008 06:31 PM

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Congrats Sonny! I have a feeling you will call him right into your lap though!:D

That is a great pattern for sure!

Simp 02-02-2008 06:36 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Ya know, I thought the same thing when I was first getting started in this sport. "I'll never pay that much for ammo!", were my exact words. Then I finally tallied up how much I'd actually spent when I was in the process of patterning my gun. I'd go buy a couple of boxes of shells and then I bought a couple of chokes and before I realized it, I was well over the cost of Nitro's and I still wasn't at the level that Nitro's perform at.

I'd recommend to anyone just getting started in this sport that instead of trying to find that magic shell/choke combination that all of us strive for, and admit it or not, costs more than we should really be spending, just go to the Nitro site and take advantage of their hard work in testing shell/choke combinations. In the long-run, I'll guarantee you'll save money and time. So, to me, Nitro's are worth every penny.

Simp 02-02-2008 06:39 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Yeah Willie, the final piece of the puzzle has fallen into place I believe. I have the best ammo and I know I have the best calls!;)

superstrutter 02-02-2008 06:54 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Well, I don't want to try the nitros. If they perform that good I'll become addicted and have to pay the high price;).

SwampCollie 02-02-2008 09:04 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
But what do they do at 50 feet?

I'm kind of thinking of going back the other way this spring. I'm over shooting birds at distances beyond 45 yards. I'm turkey hunting... not turkey shooting. Every single bird I have ever missed has been inside of 15 yards.... where my pattern is about the size of a dixie cup top. At 25... it will still take a birds head OFF. At 40 yards... the 10" circle count on my Winchester Elite E.R. HD 2oz #6s is in the 190s. Which is really really good for any turkey gun.

That Nitro with over 300 in a 10" at 40 is world class. My shells only have about 420 pellets in them (2oz of #6 HDs). I thought that Hevi-shot and Win Extended Range HD were the same weight... but I guess not if there are 500-600 pellets in a 2 1/4oz load of 4x5x7.

maytom 02-02-2008 09:51 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: Simp

I gave a friend of mine 2 3.5" 4x5x7 Hevishot Nitro's to try in his Browning Gold with Kicks .675 and at 40 yards he counted 326 pellets in the magical 10" circle. Why do I shoot Nitro's? That's why.:D
I get 316 inside a 10" circle with their 3" H378 load!! Ditto on Nitro!!;)

ultimag 02-03-2008 05:20 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
problem solved shoot em BEFORE they get to 10 yds

Bobgobble2 02-03-2008 08:22 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
I agree Ulti but those dang silent gobblers have a way of showin up out a now where..:)

ultimag 02-03-2008 08:50 PM

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Yea Bob sometimes you wish you had eyes in back of yor head LOL

r33h 02-03-2008 10:36 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Is there anyway you can post a pic of that pattern? I would love to see it. I am not doubting what you say...I would just love to see the pattern. If I ever shot a pattern like that, I wouldn't ever throw that one away!

How many of those pellets are 7 shot in the 10" circle? Will 7 shot have enough energy to take a tom down at 50 yards, even being hevi-shot?

Simp 02-04-2008 07:44 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 
I'll see if I can get the target from him. He sent it to me on my cell phone but I could barely see it. He brought it over yesterday and I saw it then. It was definitely a meat grinder pattern. I shot 2 shots of Nitros yesterday, one with the Jelly Head .660 and the other with a Trulock .693 and the Jelly Head had 266 pellets, while the Trulock had 200 pellets in the 10 inch circle at 40 yards.

About those #7's. I've heard, and believe that the #7 Hevishot pelletshave the same amount of energy at 40 yards as a #5 lead pellet.

The patternsare a little low but I was basically shooting at the middle just to see what the pattern would do at 40 yards.

Here's the Jelly Head:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6717/nitroturkeytargets001bc4.jpg

Here's the Trulock:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4585/nitroturkeytargets002vo8.jpg

barry1me 02-04-2008 11:45 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Im sure nitros are great, just hard to get past the price....

Mr. Longbeard 02-04-2008 01:12 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
Why not just load the entire shell with #7 hevi shot;)

r33h 02-04-2008 02:13 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard

Why not just load the entire shell with #7 hevi shot;)
I believe that Federal does just that. If I am not mistaken, Federal is the only company that loads turkey load shells in #7 shot with their new Federal Heavyweight loads...

r33h 02-04-2008 02:16 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: Simp

I'll see if I can get the target from him. He sent it to me on my cell phone but I could barely see it. He brought it over yesterday and I saw it then. It was definitely a meat grinder pattern. I shot 2 shots of Nitros yesterday, one with the Jelly Head .660 and the other with a Trulock .693 and the Jelly Head had 266 pellets, while the Trulock had 200 pellets in the 10 inch circle at 40 yards.

About those #7's. I've heard, and believe that the #7 Hevishot pelletshave the same amount of energy at 40 yards as a #5 lead pellet.

The patternsare a little low but I was basically shooting at the middle just to see what the pattern would do at 40 yards.

Here's the Jelly Head:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6717/nitroturkeytargets001bc4.jpg

Here's the Trulock:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4585/nitroturkeytargets002vo8.jpg
Simp...what kinda gun are you shooting?

Simp 02-04-2008 05:59 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
I'm shooting a Beretta Extrema with a24" barrel.

Simp 02-04-2008 06:06 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
I haven't been able to get the pattern from him but let me say this, at 20 yards it looks as if someone threw a baseball at the paper with just a few fliers about 10" from the center. I have absolutely no doubt that at 20 yards you'll take a turkeys head completely off with this load.

r33h 02-05-2008 07:23 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 
How much did the stuff run you for a box? How many shells are in the box?

Simp 02-05-2008 07:51 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: r33h

How much did the stuff run you for a box? How many shells are in the box?
Ok, first, sit down. :D A box (25 per) of 12 guage 3.5" 4x5x7's will run you $150. I realize that this is the absolute most money that I've ever paid for any kind of ammo but when you factor in that once you've bought it, unless you shoot 10 turkeys per year, this stuff should last me for 3 years (averaging 8 shots per year, which is a lot of shooting for me!). $50 per year isn't so bad when you think about it that way. You can also but a box of 5 or 10 as well if you don't want to spring for an entire box.

maytom 02-05-2008 07:52 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 
A box of 25 Nitro 3" shells will set you back a cool $100.00!! But that was a couple year's ago price, they may cost you more now!![:-]

hycohounds 02-05-2008 09:41 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 
i have a question. have you shot those nitros at a turkey target taped to a phone book at 40 yards. try that and tell me if your still impressed. i have killed them at 40plus with nitros but after a friend had me do that i realized it was more luck than shot.it looks devastating on paper but there is to much small shot to go but a page or two into the book. try it. you still might like them, but i want more down range energy...............tony

Simp 02-05-2008 11:00 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: hycohounds

you still might like them, but i want more down range energy...............tony
Shoot buckshot then. Have you shot your favorite load at a phone book? What were the results? If Nitros weren't what they're cracked up to be I believe their cover would've been blown long ago. A #7 hevishot pellet has just as much "down range energy" than a #5 lead pellet. What's not to like about that? Shoot a smaller pellet so you'll have more pellets in the shell, but get the same energy as a lead pellet that's 2 sizes bigger! That's a win/win in my book.

Simp 02-05-2008 11:05 AM

RE: Nitro results...
 

ORIGINAL: hycohounds

i have killed them at 40plus with nitros but after a friend had me do that i realized it was more luck than shot.
Here's another experiment for you to try: Take a knife and try stabbing it through the phone book. Won't go very far into the book will it? Now, do you think you could be able to stick that same knife through your hand? Of course you could. Fortunately for us, we're not hunting phone books, but birds that are made of flesh and blood, just like your hand.

hycohounds 02-05-2008 01:57 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
i'm not knocking them, i use them in my 20 ga. however, people take the hype and expect to be able to shoot 50/60+ yards. some can- but not me.there are more and more new comers to our sport and most don't understand about poi and downrange energy and holes in patterns. just trying to help with the discussion.hundreds of birds have been killed by someone waking up one morning and decided they want to turkey hunt, run down to walmart, buy shells and go. hundreds of birds have been missed or wounded doing the same thing.and i have shot the 12 ga into a phone book. #5 hevi went about 1/4 deeper than most of the nitros. not all but most, the #4's sank just as much if not a page or 2 more.they are a great shell. worth every penny to a turkey hunter..............tony

Mr. Longbeard 02-05-2008 10:19 PM

RE: Nitro results...
 
I might just have to try that phone book deal... sounds like a good idea...


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