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mossbergman11 01-16-2008 10:56 AM
Turkey decoys?
 
I was wondering how to position decoys when im hunting? also do you stay in one spot when turkey hunting or do you move a lot? if you move around a lot do you leave the decoys where they are?

r33h 01-16-2008 12:33 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
If I am using decoys and I am going to move...I don't leave them there. I don't want the turkey to get suspecious or use to seeing decoys my decoys. You can either take them with you, or if you don't think you will use them, throw them in some tall grass or put them someplace where they wont get seen. Just my opinion...

superstrutter 01-16-2008 01:34 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
There is no special art to putting dekes out. I just put a hen or two about 20 to 25 yards in front of me. I have had great success with dekes, but they are not going to work every time. As for leaving your dekes if you get up to go somewhere else, I agree with r33h. I wouldn't leave them. If I'm chasing a gobbler or trying to cut him off, I'll just leave my dekes hidden in the woods. I don't always take dekes with me on my hunt. A lot of it depends on the situation. They can be a great tool though.

mossbergman11 01-16-2008 03:21 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
is it best to stay where i am when hunting?

r33h 01-16-2008 03:51 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
It does take some experience to know when to move and when to stay put. You will mess up quite a bit...but you will learn from your mistakes...I learned most everything that I know about turkey hunting on my own. If you think that the gobbler is going around you or away from you, then get up and try and cut him off (if you can without being seen). Sitting in one place can have its advantages as well. If you know that gobblers come through that area dur to what you have seen when scouting, then try and wait them out.

superstrutter 01-16-2008 04:42 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
Trust me Mossbergman, you will learn as you go. You will learn mainly by making mistakes. You will never stop learning. Just when you think you have everything figured out, a wary old longbeard will make you look like a fool. If it were easy it wouldn't be fun. Your in for a very exciting and frustrating time,probably in the same hunt. Just remember, be patient. You may kill a longbeard on your first hunt or it may take years to finally score. Hopefully it won't take too long. I'll guarantee you this though, once you take that first bird,whether a jake or longbeard, you will be hooked for life.

Rory/MO 01-16-2008 06:07 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
put them to the side of you fora couple of reasonsreasons, put them within 25 yards of you
[ul][*]other hunters shooting[*]so the turkeys eyes arent directed towards you[/ul]

Gamblinman 01-16-2008 08:36 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
always face them away from you.

RIStrutStopper 01-16-2008 08:47 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
ORIGINAL: Gamblinman

always face them away from you.
I'm not exactly an expert but I disagree... If I use a jake decoy I face it towards me. If the Tom wants to pick a fight, he will face the jake and be looking away from me. That gives me the opportunity to move. If I'm using a lonehen I do want it facing away from me, but you have to be careful... If the turkey comes in facing the hen it might hang up out of range waiting for the hen to come to him. sometimes no decoy is best. There is no exact science to it but after a while you'll figure out what works best for you.

r33h 01-16-2008 10:39 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
ORIGINAL: RIStrutStopper

ORIGINAL: Gamblinman

always face them away from you.
I'm not exactly an expert but I disagree... If I use a jake decoy I face it towards me. If the Tom wants to pick a fight, he will face the jake and be looking away from me. That gives me the opportunity to move. If I'm using a lonehen I do want it facing away from me, but you have to be careful... If the turkey comes in facing the hen it might hang up out of range waiting for the hen to come to him. sometimes no decoy is best. There is no exact science to it but after a while you'll figure out what works best for you.
agreed...

Also, superstrutter said it best. You are going to make several mistakes and that is the only way you are going to learn, and when you do get that bird, you will have a new addiction.

JNTURK 01-17-2008 11:39 AM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
ORIGINAL: superstrutter

There is no special art to putting dekes out. I just put a hen or two about 20 to 25 yards in front of me. I have had great success with dekes, but they are not going to work every time. As for leaving your dekes if you get up to go somewhere else, I agree with r33h. I wouldn't leave them. If I'm chasing a gobbler or trying to cut him off, I'll just leave my dekes hidden in the woods. I don't always take dekes with me on my hunt. A lot of it depends on the situation. They can be a great tool though.
to one extent i would have to disagree with you...as a beginner i had thought it didn't matter but in relation to how you call it really matters how you set up a decoy...if you call hard and have a decoy feeding on the ground to a gobbler this looks weird....i have found the best set up, for me anyways, is to have two hens (if possible) one feeding and one up...this way if i change my calling to softer calls it could be from the feeding bird and if i get loud it could be from the standing decoy...this seems to bring birds in from distances more often then just having one decoy out...if i know a bird is to my left and i need him to come out i will usually put the decoys facing the direction i want the bird to go...as he will usually go directly to them or towards the direction they are facing......like it has been stated you really just have to geta feel for them and there activity that day..sometimes i use no decoy...it will change from day to day

mossbergman11 01-17-2008 11:59 AM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...archId=2292572
would these be good to get?
so have the jake facing me and the hen?

mossbergman11 01-17-2008 12:01 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
any good cheap decoys?

superstrutter 01-17-2008 02:10 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
ORIGINAL: JNTURK

ORIGINAL: superstrutter

There is no special art to putting dekes out. I just put a hen or two about 20 to 25 yards in front of me. I have had great success with dekes, but they are not going to work every time. As for leaving your dekes if you get up to go somewhere else, I agree with r33h. I wouldn't leave them. If I'm chasing a gobbler or trying to cut him off, I'll just leave my dekes hidden in the woods. I don't always take dekes with me on my hunt. A lot of it depends on the situation. They can be a great tool though.
to one extent i would have to disagree with you...as a beginner i had thought it didn't matter but in relation to how you call it really matters how you set up a decoy...if you call hard and have a decoy feeding on the ground to a gobbler this looks weird....i have found the best set up, for me anyways, is to have two hens (if possible) one feeding and one up...this way if i change my calling to softer calls it could be from the feeding bird and if i get loud it could be from the standing decoy...this seems to bring birds in from distances more often then just having one decoy out...if i know a bird is to my left and i need him to come out i will usually put the decoys facing the direction i want the bird to go...as he will usually go directly to them or towards the direction they are facing......like it has been stated you really just have to geta feel for them and there activity that day..sometimes i use no decoy...it will change from day to day
Your disagreeing with me? The turkey king himself:D. The reason there is really no art to setting outdecoys IMO,is because you don't know how the gobbler will react. One may like it the way you are talking about while another may be the total opposite. I don't worry about which way they are facing. If the wind is blowing it really doesn't matter anyway. I've killed gobblers with the decoy(s)in every position, and it never really mattered. If the gobbler is interested, he's coming. I do understand your logic though. I just really don't worry about it too much. Another thing, you may not know which way the gobbler is coming. You set up for him to come in front and he comes behind you. You set up for him to come in from the left and circles and comes in from the right. I just think there's too many variables in worrying about exactly how to set your decoys out. I know many will disagree with me, and that's perfectly fine. That's just my thinking. I just put one or two hen dekes out in front of me, actually a little to the right or left of me, and work my magic and hope he commits.

JNTURK 01-17-2008 02:32 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
these would work fine...your other post did not come up for dicks..sorry..LOL....even a walmart decoy will work just fine...i would recommend getting anything besides rubber and "blow up".....it never hurts to have a jake, and two types of hens....i have two of the multy positioning hens...just in case i want them both feeding or both up...

JNTURK 01-17-2008 02:35 PM
RE: Turkey decoys?
 
ORIGINAL: superstrutter

ORIGINAL: JNTURK

ORIGINAL: superstrutter

There is no special art to putting dekes out. I just put a hen or two about 20 to 25 yards in front of me. I have had great success with dekes, but they are not going to work every time. As for leaving your dekes if you get up to go somewhere else, I agree with r33h. I wouldn't leave them. If I'm chasing a gobbler or trying to cut him off, I'll just leave my dekes hidden in the woods. I don't always take dekes with me on my hunt. A lot of it depends on the situation. They can be a great tool though.
to one extent i would have to disagree with you...as a beginner i had thought it didn't matter but in relation to how you call it really matters how you set up a decoy...if you call hard and have a decoy feeding on the ground to a gobbler this looks weird....i have found the best set up, for me anyways, is to have two hens (if possible) one feeding and one up...this way if i change my calling to softer calls it could be from the feeding bird and if i get loud it could be from the standing decoy...this seems to bring birds in from distances more often then just having one decoy out...if i know a bird is to my left and i need him to come out i will usually put the decoys facing the direction i want the bird to go...as he will usually go directly to them or towards the direction they are facing......like it has been stated you really just have to geta feel for them and there activity that day..sometimes i use no decoy...it will change from day to day
Your disagreeing with me? The turkey king himself:D. The reason there is really no art to setting outdecoys IMO,is because you don't know how the gobbler will react. One may like it the way you are talking about while another may be the total opposite. I don't worry about which way they are facing. If the wind is blowing it really doesn't matter anyway. I've killed gobblers with the decoy(s)in every position, and it never really mattered. If the gobbler is interested, he's coming. I do understand your logic though. I just really don't worry about it too much. Another thing, you may not know which way the gobbler is coming. You set up for him to come in front and he comes behind you. You set up for him to come in from the left and circles and comes in from the right. I just think there's too many variables in worrying about exactly how to set your decoys out. I know many will disagree with me, and that's perfectly fine. That's just my thinking. I just put one or two hen dekes out in front of me, actually a little to the right or left of me, and work my magic and hope he commits.
That is Mr. Turkey King to you:D:D:D:D

naw..i see your point...in all honesty where you hunt and the type of terrain really dictates your opinion..in my area here in CA and the public land i hunt position does really matter....in other areas i am sure not soo much.....best thing is to go out and experiement yourself ...mossbergman11 ....give it a try this season and see how it works out for you...


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