Best Choke Tube & Shotgun Combo 40+ yard shot?
 

Im going to purchase a turkey gun this year and dont really know what to go with.But i want a shotgun & Choke that will reach out there and score like i see on the turkey shows man those guys shoots gobblers looks to be 60 yards i would like to have something like that.Also if someone can tell me a good scope to go with if i go that way?THANKS FOR ANY INFO;)





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Any of the 3 or 3.5 shotguns are capable of killing a turkey at 40+ yards as long as you find a shell/choke combo that the gun shoots well. To just pick a choke off the shelf it can be a crap shoot. I have tried numerous shell/choke combos in my turkey guns before finding one that I like and that gives me the pattern that I feel I need to ethically take a turkey at 40+ yards. Two combos that have worked for me time and time again on birds out to 47 yards are:

Browning Gold 3.5 w/26"barrel/MAD MAX .670 choke/Winchester 3.5 Extended Range #5.
Remington 11-87 Super Mag w/23"barrel/Kicks Gobblin Thunder .655 choke/Winchester 3.5 Extended Range #6.

My advise is to pick a shotgun that feels good to you and try several shell/choke combos until you get one that performs to your standards. If you don't mind paying the money the Rhino choke and Nitro custom ammo is another avenue. They have been really producing some awesome patterns and Nitro Company has tested alot of load and choke combos in all of the major shotguns.

Here is a link to Nitro's web site. http://www.nitrocompany.com/pattern.htm#recommended%20shells

Good luck! I will be trying out the Rhino/Nitro combo before this spring season.

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Thanks for your info and i will check out the ammo also.THANKS

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I use a 870 Wingmaster w/ 28" barrel, extra full turkey choke made by Remington and shoot 3"Federal #5's. I have taken several birds in the 40-50 yard range with that combo. Happy hunting, hope you find what your looking for!

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Mossberg 500 Turkey model.
26" ported barrel w/HS Strut Undertaker extended choke.
Federal 3" toting 1 7/8 of #5's.

Have killed turkeys @ 40+ with that combo.

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These are all great suggestions, but I would take a different approach. Watch the videos for entertainment value. I love watching them too, but that's about all they're good for. I'd recommend working on your calling and your set up. Getting a shot inside of 40 yards is not that much more difficult, and it's surely a lot more fun and exciting. Just my 2 cents.

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Just wanted to say that I use my Mossberg 835 w/ turkey choke and have used 3" loads which work great at 40 yards. when I am not using the shotgun, I am using my bow. I don't shoot farther than 45 yards or so, and really don't need to. I can call those Tom's in with no problem so I don't have to rely on long shots. Like it was said here before, try some guns out with their weight and other extras that you can add on if needed. For me, the standard issue Mossberg 835 w/turkey choke works just fine if I don't want to use my bow.

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I wanted to repond to this one again and say that I agree with Okie807 and Coyotestalker. It is not all about killing birds at 40-50 yards. I stated in my post that I kill a bird at 47 yards. That was last year and the bird was hung up and was not moving any closer and I knew my equipment. But, the real rush is calling the birds up in your lap under 20 yards and knocking them off there feet!! Last spring, my hunting buddy and I took 6 toms while hunting in two different states and all of them were taken at less than 25 yards except for one.

Getting turkeys in close is a rush that is like no other! I hope all this informaiton helps. Wish I would have had it when I started turkey hunting.

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Thanks for your input and yes there is nothing more thrilling than bringing them within 25-30 yards but thats what i was saying last season i shot at 3 diff. birds at 25-30 yards and knocked feathers out but they flew off on me laughing all the way.I held right on the money the last bird i shot at and it was about a 30 yard shot and never touched him.I like the full camo guns and i also want a turkey gun i tried the xxxfull undertaker in my gun last year and it didnt impress me either so i just stayed with the tru-glow choke because i couldnt afford another to try.So now i saved up some money and im going to get me a turkey gun for this season.Im really thinking about the benelli m1 with a comp-n-choke xxxfull w/hevi shot #5 i have heard that this setup is great i hope it is anyway.I really do thank you all for your comments and will take all the help i can get.THANKS

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Mossberg 500 with the mossberg xx-f turkey choke is deadly with Federal 3" mags 5 or 6 shot. Its awesome. It wont break your wallet either.

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Nitro........................ enough said

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lol.......

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I'll just tell you what I shoot. The gun isa Remington 11-87 Super Magnum. The last 2 years I was shooting with a Truglo StrutStopper choke tube and Remington Hevishot 3.5in 6's. I killed bird at 55 yards with that setup 2 years ago. Last year 35 yards was my farthest shot. This year I plan on shooting the new Hevi-13 loads through a HS Strut Undertaker choke tube. Just ordered the choke. Man I'm getting excited!

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I shoot a Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag with 3 1/2" Federal #5's with a ported barrel and Kick's Gobblin Thunder choke. That gun flips 3'x3'x3' boxes into the air at 40 yds. So you can imagine the capability of that combo.

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Thanks for info on the 1187 remington im thinking i will probably go with the sps-t remington 12ga i like the commets ive seen on this model and i am a remington nut i love the remington guns.Ive always shot remington but i was thinking about going with a m1 bennelli 12ga but the price is what throws me for a loop...[:-]But anyway thanks for info:D

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My dad has the 11-87 SPS-T with monte carlo stock and Tru-Glo sights. He is shooting Hevi-Shot through it and has patterned well, but he hasn't had a shot at a turkey since he bought it last spring.

My dad was also leaning toward the M1 with the pistol grip. But because of the price and the aluminum receiver making it kick like a mule, he decided to go with the 11-87.

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I think the Vidoes have miss lead you a little. Next time you watch one , wait for the shot and count How many strudes the hunter makes to get to the turkey. These guys don't have guns that will shoot birds out 75 yards , its just the video that makes the turkey look so far away.

By taking some time and studying some of the formulas in what guns tend to shoot right , you can very well put togeather a turkey thumper. I have built 2 guns over the years and now shoot the 20gauge.

Here's the pattern I get at 40 yards with my 20. This pattern don't make me shoot any farther , I still wait for the birds to get into 20-30 yards. I just like the added serceruty of a good shooting gun.



...BT

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Very nice pattern thats what we want when the moment presents itself.Very nice for a 20ga pattern at 40 yards.Thanks for info and yes maybe your right them shots looks to be 70+ yards.It looks like there using a deer rifle on them turkeys but we all know there shotguns...lol

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Cutting thier heads clean off at 12 paces (last years turkey) is a good time, but hunt turkeys long enough and you'll have a 20 lb. bird hang up around 40-45 yards and come no further. It's even worse when you have to not shoot because you're not sure that you're equipment will perform at those distances.

It's like Adrian said, I can get 'em into 20 and under.....but if they don't play I know my gun can reach out and tag 'em anyway.

Very good that it's been said not to follow everything you see in a video. Not only does the camera lens make things look like they are further away, but that camera man is very rarely sitting next to the hunter. Most times the camera is a good 10-20 yards behind the shooter, as to not screw up the hunt.

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Very good advice!!

One thing I would add, be sure that your gun has a super pattern all the way out to 40 yards. This way you will have the "40 and under" range covered, where 99.9% of your shots will be taken!! Taking 50+ yard shots isn't what this sport is about. Practice on your calling ability,the art of sitting still, and patience. These three things will get you your bird more times than trying to bust them at 50+ yards!!;)

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I agree that you should concentrate on making sure you have the turkey in your "high perecentage" range--say 40 yards.

But when you get one of those that's just a bit further than that . . .

I've found the Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag I bought last year to be deadly with great patterns to nearly 50 yards. I killed two 20 pounders last year --one at 32 yards and the 2nd at 42 yards. The 2nd one never even flopped, so I was convinced. I'm shooting 3 1/2 Winchester #5 Turkey loads.

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I agree with the ones who say that you shouldn't even shoot at a turkey at that range.

Just like my set up. I shoot a Browning BPS fitted with a Comp-N-Choke XXX Full. With 3.5'' Winchester XX 2 1/4 oz #6's, I have yet to find a set up that wasn't custom that can out do it at 40 yards. But I have never shot a turkey that far.

I like to sit back and watch the birds come in close. I like to learn from them. A struttin' Tom at 20 yards is on of the most beautiful things in nature. If you want to shoot at them when you can barely see them, why not just go to the store and buy a Butter Ball?

JMO

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Good advice and nice combo Lung Blood :D Used it for my 870thumper many season untill I got the Rhino/Nitro set up last Spring. I'll be doing it to my 11-87 thumper herein a few months.

HNF- Like LB said, pick out a gun that you comfortable shooting. With all the choke tubes and turkey loads on the market you will be able to spit a nice pattern. As far as a scope? I wouldinvest my money and time on getting the right gun with a great parttern before I look to top it with an extra. Unless you'redead set on using a scope becuase of you sight or just because, I'd wait.If your gun pattern isn't where you want it you can always dial it in by buying open sights. Open sight like Williams or TruGlo work great.It could be the way to start with out sinking a lot of money in a scope set up. Hope this helps

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You may want to think a little bit tighter for the Hevi-13 loads based on the results folks had last spring. Best patterns were achieved with .645-.655 with a standard bore 12 gauge barrel. I don't think you'll get the results your looking for in the .665 Undertaker choke/hevi-13 combo.

I'm in the group who likes to shoot after I call them in close. Under 40 yards for me. It's part of the game.

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I use a Winchester 1300 with a 20 inch barrel and an extra full, ported, extended Winchoke. Itshoots great patterns out to 50 yards shooting Winchester Supreme Double X Magnum Loads. 2 oz. # 4's in 3 inch. Not that I shoot that far but like others said it is nice to know what your equipment is capable of. I also have a Bushnell 1.5 to 4.5 Banner scope on this setup and find that with a little practice before the season starts it helps me estimate my distance on shots.

Bottom line, get the gun that feels best and is most reliable. If you don't have faith in your equipment, you won't be a happy hunter!! :D:D

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I use a Remington 870, over a semi-auto as the same theory applies with a pump as with a bolt action rifle. The energy from the shell is not being used to work the action, so it expends more of that shell energy out the front of the barrel. The choke that i use is not for everyone, as some hunters do not want to spend the $90 that this guy gets, but he guarantees it will outperform any other choke on the market, and it does. The shells I use are custom loaded, in 3.5". I have shot this load at 30 yards at a standard Quaker Boy Target, and had 240 pellets in the neck/ head region, not the 10" circle but actually in the neck and head, at 40 yards 125 pellets, at 50 yards, 82 pellets, at 60 yards 93 pellets and at 70 yards 63 pellets. I have had several people state that the load they use kills them dead and dead is dead, so what's the difference. The difference is, more pellets allows you additional room for error, especially if you have no holes in that pattern,and I know I still get excited, so I can pull off slightly or whatever we do when in the heat of the moment.

I also want to add that I don't condone shooting birds out far, and prefer to call them in close as mentioned, BUT, I also like the option of being able to kill that bird, as mentioned above, if he is hung up and just won't come in and thinks he is safe. Especially on a trip that I have traveled some distance and spent considerably more than just hunting around home. You can view the targets at www.farleysadventures.com