SSGG,
Just curious how you know so much about DLC cams when you've never layed hands on one? Currently there is only one covert II this side of china and I'm 100% certain you've never seen it. I'm a dealer for both HCO cams and DLC cams. I can vouch for both companies customer service and products -They are great! The few problems I've had out of either brand have been handled quickly. I'm approaching 500 units sold just since june so I know a little bit about both comapanies customer service. Sing ScoutGuards praises all you want cause it is a hell of a little camera, but so is the covet. I'm sure the new covert II will be a great unit as well. My initial order has already been placed sight unseen. I'll be testing the units before listing them on my site so I'll post up some sample pics as soon as possible. Lets wait until the camera is available before we start doing reviews, OK!

you can go to www.dlccovert.com to see the camera writeup.

It's amazing how someone can respond to your question that has not seen the camera, nor works for Covert or the manufacturerand give you a review of the features or performance ofa camera that won't be available for another week or so, and in the same breath tell you what HCO is coming with.(you might think their sole purpose is to follow the forums and trash the covert camera and promote HCO).

The covert IIis built on the SG550 platform, but does open from the front to access the batteries and controls. The led's have changed to provide a 10° wider pattern and the camera is camo. There is no significant loss of battery life because of the 2 additional LED's (a few hours from the total as compared to the sg550 model).The price of $40 more, well, go to the covert store and see the pricing and what comes with the camera. Camo SG550's sell for $209 and someone didn't do the math on this....

As for the security issue, we all know the groove was basicly ineffective for security purposes on the SG550. That is why there was a bear/security safe box made for the camera. By not adding expense to a camera forinefficient security this enables the consumer to have a choice (based on need) to have a bear safe or a bracket to secure the camera to fit the need / application. As for service, I believe you pay return shipping on a warranty camera from some and Covert does not charge return shipping.

Thats about the same setup I use. One thing to aid in better nighttime shots is hang the cam about 2' from the ground a little closer to the target, say 9-10 feet and aim it up ever so slightly. the IR seems to light up the lower half of the pics more than the top half. Aiming it up ever so slightly brightens the entire picture.

Skindog ...... Is there a differance between DLC and Scout guard Cam other then the logo?

That's quoted from another forum, here is the link (I listed the username in my previous post too)
http://www.chasingame.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=11153&st=0&sk=t&a mp;sd=a&start=15

I've read enough about BMC's backdoor and undertable thingys. Nobody is blind here.

FYI: the link has many quite interesting readings.

To clarify,the post that I quoted was not by me, it's by username TCamNut[/b] - I listed the username in my post.

Didn'texpectit's such a hotseat here.

To Rasorbackq,

There is no difference between ScoutGuard and Covert I. HCO does not make Socutguard. BMC (Boly Media Communications, Inc) makes Scoutguard. If you compare the camera to the car industry, when Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix are both made by the same plant, no one bad mouth either of them. The way I look at it, it is the same thing here. Some people like Vibe and some people like Toyota. I don't know any backdoor and undertable things from BMC, I have not heard any. I was just thinking it seems to be alright to SSGG when HCO got the exclusive deal to Scoutguard. But now, someone else (not HCO) got a different camera from BMC, then things are all bad now. I just wish people had their facts before they talk....

I don't want to be involved in such fights.

As for backdoor and undertable thingys, no customers really care (maybe care a little in the long run?)

I read the FACTS from chasingame websiteand I don't have the energy to repeat them here. They were from trustworthy forum users and I believe they are HARD FACTS. WHO ARE YOU do say they are not facts?

Do some quick search onchasingame website yourself if you are interested to know the things I read.

BMC as amanufacturer in Chinamay want to consider their reputation in future contracts and business deals for their own good.

Customers want reliable products and trustworthy sellers, that's all.

PEACE.

To SSGG,

I agree with you "PEACE". This forum is about cameras, and it should stay that way. All I said to WIbuckchaser was there is a new camera coming out from BMC( Since he asked and I am a Canadian rep so I answered him. We sell Scoutguard in Canada and we could not get "Camo" from BMC for SG550 so when Covert II came out with "Camo" from BMC, we have decided to carry them both). Since none of us has seen the camera yet, the opinions toward this new camera should stop right here. Give it a chance and don't kill it before it is even shown. Thanks!

looks like a pretty good cam if you ask me...