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Old 01-09-2002, 05:14 AM
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I use a Dremel with a 1/8 drill bit. I first cut a slot down the shaft to the depth I want then run the drill bit through at the base of the slot. I like a nock that snaps on the string so I remove enough material then finish with sandpaper. I reinforce all my nocks using a wrap of fine plant fibers. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 01-09-2002, 09:11 AM
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In one of my back issues of TBM I saw the dimensions for a jig. It appeared to be a 2x2 block of hardwood with a hole in the center running the length of the block slightly larger than the shafting. You then cut 1/16 inch kerfs running across the bottom on each end and use these slots to place rubber bands, you put your shaft in the hole and strap it in with the rubber bands, then set up a rip fence on you band saw using a piece of plywood and C-clamps. hope this helps if my desc. is not clear email me and I will dig through my old issues and tell you which one or send you a xerox.
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Old 01-09-2002, 09:49 AM
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thanks Pat....I have all the back issues(x2), I will have to go back through them! Loud and clear with the descirption.
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Old 01-09-2002, 11:15 AM
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I think you're on the right track for keeping the cuts straight.

I also think you should do the kayak first. I like kayaks and you're in primo kayak land. <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

I just looked for your &quot;What Happened?&quot; post on the *other* board to see if there was anything further... I think those bas***** pulled it! How's that for chicken poop?
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Old 01-09-2002, 02:46 PM
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LOL!!!

Hopefully I can get this jig cut today. I am going to hit the big woods shop on post to use real POWER equip LOL....I need a vise and a fence for the bandsaw I think, to pull this one off and get it accurate considering its going to reflect on the rest of the arrows I make with it LOL.

Kayak eh? I was thinking the same. A 14 footer. Beautiful looking kayak and limitless designs! A couple fellas I found on the interenet down in North Pole (I like the sound of that DOWN in North Pole LOL) have already made some. They are going to run some 17 footers on the local rivers. I dont think I could do that and feel comfortable as they are sea kayak designs...my luck I will hit the only friggn rock in the hole dawgnubit river and sink it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>! Plus I want something a little wider for gear as I plan on using it for hunting/fishin (got some wild ideas on hunting out of it <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>! I was thinking of paddling some of the rivers down by anch and get picked up on the ocean side of anch for a couple days float...should be fun, interesting at the least LOL!

go figure, thats why we are here right <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>!!! Talk at ya.
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Old 02-23-2002, 11:34 AM
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Hey Greg, finally figured out why they are coming out slightly crooked. I cant get the dang blade to track straight!!! I am trying to set it up to rip some more strips for my canoe as I need to get the looker strips done and I am having problems with the thickness of the boards not being the same, I think I have it figured out though...anyways, I was farting around with the bandsaw last nite and my 1/4&quot; blade looks worse then a drunk on a friday nite! I put on the 3/8ths blade and it tracks pretty nice although still a hair off. I was told it has to do with how tight I have my blade set at....darn near stopped it I had it so tight trying to see if it helped....still cant figure that one out but oh well!
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Old 02-24-2002, 02:17 AM
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At least it sounds like you're headed in the right direction!

I went to a knife show yesterday and bought a couple more horn slabs. I cut part of one up today for a friend that wants to make some reinforced nocks.

They've sure got some pretty stuff for knife handles. Got me thinking... (dangerous)...

If I cut off a little piece 3/8 x 3/8 x 1 1/2 and chuck it into my Makita drill, I may be able to use it like a lathe and turn out a little nock with a stem that will insert into the end of a bamboo arrow. That would be too cool, especially if I made it out of some of the stuff I saw. Can we say turquoise nock?
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Old 02-24-2002, 06:13 AM
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Dan & Grey,
I haven't tried any self-nocks yet, but I've been reading this thread, and you got me to wonderin'.

I don't have the TBB jig directions either, but I have been making some jigs for other archery purposes. Dunno what the fence options are on Dan's band saw, but here's a suggestion:
Make a jig out of a plain square board by cutting a V-groove with a router straight across, and in the middle. V-grooves center shafts nicely.(Like on power tapering tools). Use the rip fence, or screw a wood strip on the bottom of the board to ride in the fence groove on the table. Make a clamp by taking a piece of Lexan or Lucite, drill a couple holes on both sides of the shaft groove, and hold it down with springs under washers and wing nuts. File or sand a flared groove on the edge where you start the arrow shaft under the clamp. If you need this whole thing to be adjustable, then mount it to another board that will ride in the fence groove instead. Cut slots in the jig board for screws coming up from the base board. Piece of cake???!!

How you'd modify this to work for cutting nocks and reinforcing grooves I'm not sure, It's basically an adjustable arrow shaft holder.
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Old 02-24-2002, 11:56 AM
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interesting stuff Walley! I bet it would work. The jig in TBB is very similar to the one that Ted Fry had machined, although a little different. It has a V notch cut out and also one very similar for doing the self nock (one on both end) where Teds has the nock and the reinforcement slots on the same jig) My bandsaw drifts away from the square slot so using it is going to be tough, the bigger blade is much less then the smaller one and freehand is an option but with my hands I might want to re eval <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>! I am gonna try and make that jig in the near future and a partner of mine is a machinist. Gonna have him machine it out once I get a good wooden one made. He is also making me a motor mount for my cataraft!

Hey Greg. My wife picked me up a few books for valentines day. She found one on knife making (and she thought I had enuf hobbies already LOL) I plan on making some turkey box calls for a few buddies for xmas!)...its says how to do the blades but is more on how to do the handles. Just what I was looking for. It talks about all wood, all horn with wooden ends, and mixtures! Also sheaths. Kinda like Knive Handles for Dummies 101...just my style <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>! I did leave it at work and I can pick it up tonite and post the title....I have to go by there anyways.....
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Old 02-25-2002, 06:11 AM
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Dan, check this site out if you haven't already:
http://www.sawingassociation.com/Pub...rblsht_cht.htm

Good info on band saw setup...
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