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bigcountry 04-05-2009 12:23 PM
Min string strands
 
Is 8 strands not enough for a 60lb longbow of 450plus?

I usually use 12 strand of B50.

burniegoeasily 04-06-2009 05:24 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Ive never used 450 for anything but compounds. Not sure. I usually use 16 strands of dacron 50 for 60+lb bows.

Kanga 04-06-2009 05:59 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Mark.

8should be enough just make sure to pad the loops and center serving.

I use 10 strands of 450+ on my bows.

bigcountry 04-06-2009 06:30 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
ORIGINAL: Kanga

Mark.

8should be enough just make sure to pad the loops and center serving.

I use 10 strands of 450+ on my bows.
Stupid question I know. But how does one go about padding loops or center serving? I was just going to double serve it.

So when I measure off 7" from the end of my last longest strand, do I add strands same length? Or different lengths?

Kanga 04-06-2009 06:49 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Mark.

Just add a couple of strands around 8" or so once you have the loop done you can trim off the extra do the same with the center serving or double serve it either way will work but the double serving might make for tight nock fit.

LBR 04-06-2009 07:11 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
8 strands is enough (with padded loops), but I don't like it. I've heard from a few folks about smaller 450+ strings breaking without warning. I've also had another stringmaker (Rod Jenkins) tell me he's heard the same. Obviously it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.

Padding the loops is easy. I use dacron for the padding, whether it's 450+, Dynaflight '97, or 8125. I cut my strands about 15" long, and stagger them on the ends. For 450+, I like 14-15 strands in the loops (total--for an 8 strand string, add 3 strands of padding in each of the two bundles).

For the center serving, another way to get a good nock fit is use dental floss on the nock point. Just build it up to the fit you want, then add super glue and it should last.

Chad

bigcountry 04-06-2009 07:23 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
ORIGINAL: LBR

8 strands is enough (with padded loops), but I don't like it. I've heard from a few folks about smaller 450+ strings breaking without warning. I've also had another stringmaker (Rod Jenkins) tell me he's heard the same. Obviously it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.

Padding the loops is easy. I use dacron for the padding, whether it's 450+, Dynaflight '97, or 8125. I cut my strands about 15" long, and stagger them on the ends. For 450+, I like 14-15 strands in the loops (total--for an 8 strand string, add 3 strands of padding in each of the two bundles).

For the center serving, another way to get a good nock fit is use dental floss on the nock point. Just build it up to the fit you want, then add super glue and it should last.

Chad
Whats your favorite Chad for performance from longbows? D97, 450plus, 8125?

LBR 04-06-2009 07:55 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Seems that the material doesn't make much difference in performance--string weight, how it's made, tuning, nock fit, etc. does more.

I like Dynaflight '97 on bows pulling 50+ lbs, 8125 seems to work a little better for under 50#. 10 strands of Dynaflight is fine for 60#--I think it will be a little smaller than 8 strands of 450+, and I've never heard of Dynaflight breaking without warning. I've had folks order 6 and 8 strand Dynaflight strings, but I haven't tried one.

Chad

bigcountry 04-16-2009 08:41 PM
RE: Min string strands
 
ORIGINAL: LBR

Seems that the material doesn't make much difference in performance--string weight, how it's made, tuning, nock fit, etc. does more.

I like Dynaflight '97 on bows pulling 50+ lbs, 8125 seems to work a little better for under 50#. 10 strands of Dynaflight is fine for 60#--I think it will be a little smaller than 8 strands of 450+, and I've never heard of Dynaflight breaking without warning. I've had folks order 6 and 8 strand Dynaflight strings, but I haven't tried one.

Chad
Well, I made up 3 strings tonight with 10 strands of D97 and padded the loops with 6 pieces of B50. Holy cow, this is one small string with 10 strand of D97. I am kinda worried about it myself. Even with serving with .022 brownell, it was cutting in my fingers bad. So I double served overtop the .022 with .018 #62 braid. This was more comfortable on my fingers and had good nock fit.

Anyone else shoot a 10 strand bundle of D97? Its a 60lb zipper recurve.

burniegoeasily 04-17-2009 07:24 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Ive never used anything but dacron 50. I am curious if there is a noticeable improvement going with a much thinner string.

bigcountry 04-17-2009 07:40 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

Ive never used anything but dacron 50. I am curious if there is a noticeable improvement going with a much thinner string.
Oh yea, I see a good 3-5fps difference and arrows that flew stiff before now seems to fly great. But I am not too worried about that. But what I liked, was this recurve was always noisey with larger bundles.

With the 10 strands, it has quietened up quite a bit. Not sure why. So far I like it. It took me about twice as long to double serve and experiement, and padding bundles.

But I will always use B50 on my selfbows. I think its more gentle on things.

burniegoeasily 04-17-2009 09:17 AM
RE: Min string strands
 
Interesting. I think ill start playing with faster strings. Thanks.


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