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I have just been reading on the other bowhunting forum of people talking about you, the traditionalists bashing a compound bow shooter like myself. I have never seen this, but I would like to tell you all that I have a huge respect for you guys. I have shot a recurve before but never got that good. I decided that a compound was a better choice for me. I just wanted to tell you that I have a GREAT respect for you guys.

Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)

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Thanks, What's received is returned. So, you got mine too.

I don't know what it will take to end the divisions in archery and for that matter hunting. It seems like no matter what weapon we choose, someone has a problem with it.

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yuppers, it has nothing to do with the bow, its all about attitude! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!

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Hey, what equipment a guy shoots has little to do w/his moral standards IMO. Actually I know a couple guys that'd prolly be better off shooting wheels. (Did I say THAT?? Hehe) Like Lilhunter says, it's all about attitude. Pull up a log & sit a spell, but careful you're liable to get bit! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Oh! Another Compound vs Trad thread!

Dang I though we were going to talk about Aretha Franklin ! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hey Buck, There has been some Compound bashing by some Trad people.(Not on this site though) I think it is only a few, and most of them are incompetent Trad shooters with target envey. However it makes us all look bad. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

But then again there are some longbow shooters that make fun of us recurve guys, and selfbow shooters that make fun of glass bow guys, and we all make fun of cross bows. Just kidding. Have a nice day.

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Buck Magnet - Traditional shooters impress me too. I mean, I shoot a longbow, but I never said I shot it WELL !!

People hitting what they aim at impresses me. The Hunt is more important than the kill, and the hunt encompasses the stalking, the setup, and the equipment used as well. I have a shoulder problem, and may have to go to compound in the future, so I don't look down on anyone shooting a compound in any way, or a crossbow for that matter.

HOWEVER, I do think technology is going to go too far and seperate compound shooters from a primitive form of hunting. Thats the argument I am fighting on the Bowhunting forum you know ....

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oh man stealthy, you just opened the can o worms partner <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!

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Buck Magnet,

The only thing I've seen on this forum is some good natured kidding comments about training wheels on bows. I used compounds for the first 14 of my 16 years of bowhunting.

I wish I had started with bows 25 years ago when I started deer hunting. And I wish I had started with trad gear!

Stealthy,

You might want to rethink the switching to compounds because of your shoulder. That is one of the reasons I switched to trad gear.

That is particularly the case if you draw a compound bow without an arrow nocked, or if you draw to shoot and don't have a shoot and have to let down.

My shoulders experienced a whole lot more pain when I drew my Jennings Buckmaster, at 57#, and let down than I ever felt with my 53# and 57# recurves. Actually, the pain in my shoulders has diminished since I started shooting trad. It strengthens the muscles in the shoulders over time as you practice and you don't have to experience the shock of all the energy stored up in the draw force curve of a compound when you draw and let down without shooting.

Bill

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What can I say that wasn't already said? I guess being windy I can say a lot but will only add this: As long as people in the bush respect the rights of each other who cares what they shoot. We will always have people arguing compound vs recurves, inlines vs flint locks etc. If we don't stop fragmenting the groups and stick together the ANTI's will win that much easier.

Live for the chase reguardless the choice of the tool!!

Eric

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Ok thanks ,but I think trad. bows(specially recurves) are prettier. Cam <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Bill raised an interesting point for me. I only shot compounds for about 8 months before I switched to traditional. But I could never shoot the compound as much as the trad bow before I would tire. The compound was 58lbs. and the trad bow I started with was 45lbs, but quickly moved to a 50lb longbow. Can anyone explain why I can take 200shots/day with the longbow, but was exhausted after shooting about 100 shots with the compound? I've heard other trad shooters say the same thing. Does it have something to do with the difference in force draw curve? I would have thought the letoff of a compound would allow for more extended shooting.

Jack

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Yeah, I think Carl has something there. Plus your attitude is different with a stick than a compound. You just mighta been having more fun shooting. When I'm not having fun, I get a lot more tired a lot faster than when I am.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Mike

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Dang Carl, you've had the dreaded TP too? Sux don't it? Are you over it now? Still using the clicker? I had an ugly bout w/it too, but think I've got it under control now...at least at the present time it seems so. I'm not so sure a guy ever gets completely CURED of that crap, what do you think?

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Buck Magnet,
As a fellow Pennsylvanian and a trad convert 2 years ago, let me assure you that people aren't born good shooters. BUT you can become good and good enough to hunt and take game. AND it is a heck of a lot more fun to associate with trad people because they are into having fun and not conquering technology. I do not say that as a snub by any means. It is something that I have learned in the last few years.

The trad conversion process starts by hanging around trad people. You are officially warned!!!

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I appreciate your post missed again. I'm really getting the itch to move to Traditional. The challenge of it is overwhelming.

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Carl & Mike, I think you've solved the riddle for me. I know I held a long time at anchor with the compound and hardly at all with the longbow (one of my problems - short drawing) and I definitely enjoy the stickbow a lot more. I have difficulty putting it down, even when my groups start spreading and I know I should before (more) bad habits creep in.

Jack

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BM, thank you. I feel respect is some thing that needs to be earned. There are bad apple in all facets of out sport. We need to mindful and try to weed them out. May your arrows always fly true no matter out of what bow they are casted and my your heart always be pure.

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To you fellows who might want to get into traditional archery, I would say that you should consider the following:
1. Get a decent bow, preferably from someone who knows you are beginning and can set you up with something suitable to your size and strength. (The bow doesn't have to be expensive or new, but messing with junk is discouraging.)
2. Don't overbow yourself. I would say your first bow should be around 15 lbs less than what you shoot with a compound. Your draw length will probably be 1-2 inches shorter than your compound draw length, so keep that in mind.
3. For some help to get me off and running I got the book, Instinctive Archery Insights by Jay Kidwell. It is an excellent book and it will get you to some proficiency in short order. Costs about $12 or so and worth every penny.
4. Ask questions. Usually trad people will fall all over themselves to help you. And you will have questions.
5. When you get to making wood arrows remember: gasket lacquer with a dip tube, high shield feathers and fletching tape. Oh, I'll probably get slammed for this but Wensel Woodsman broadheads are easy to sharpen, fly absolutely straight and cause more destruction than you could imagine.

Hope this might help.

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All I know is &quot;Wheels?...Wheels?... We don't need no stinkin' Wheels!&quot; Sorry Bogart. Dick

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I hear ya Carl, about the best we can expect to do control it I'm thinking. Oh well, part of the tremendous challenge for many of us I guess.

Hey Dick: Hehehe!!

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Many thanks Buck Magnet. The guy who introduced me to traditional archery is a diehard wheelbow man & one of the most stand up guys I know. He prefers compounds and that is fine. If it weren't for him I don't know if I would have tried. He loaned me a recurve to check out and gave me Fred Asbell's &quot;Instinctive Shooting&quot;. If you still have an interest, I highly recommend that book as a great place to start.

I am kind of like Floxter. I started with a compound then switched a little over a year later. I was curious, wondered if I would like it & wound up loving it. Been 5 years shooting traditional.

Whether your bow has wheels or simply notched tips, the man behind it still has to know how to use it effectively. I have witnessed the those who can and those who can't in both camps.

Bleassings to you BM! You are welcome at our campfire anytime!



YBIC,
Dave &gt;&lt;&gt;

Matt 6:33,34/Rev 3:20

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Trad bows are light simple and less complicated. I find it more appealing to hunt this as it is more of challenge to to count the hairs on the nose of a big old whitetail buck. Tis the reason I elected to hunt with a archery equipment. as per rifle you can make a kill 400 yards away. no sporting chance. since this extended this to me I elected the recurve here still needed to get closer to the query. who know may make next choice with speer really be traditional hunter working my way back to the club. (nah may be not that extreme but I do love thew thrill and challenge of being up close to the deer.

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Clicker?!? I could have a lot of fun with you guys at a 3D dhoot if I had one of those old &quot;Cracker Jacks&quot; toy clickers! Reminds me of the old guy I used to hunt quail with in Florida. If you were out-shooting him that day, he carried one of the old wooden matchboxes with a few BBs in it and about the time you were ready to shoot, he'd shake it really fast. Sounded just like a Timber Rattler.....needless to say I missed a lot for awhile after that.