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bigcountry 07-06-2008 02:52 PM

Good nocking point knot
 
I don't like using brass nock points. And like to tie it in. But I have a heck of a time getting it to stay in place. When my shots start going down hill, usually its my knot moving (due to I shoot 3 under and my index finger twists it every shot) or my BH changed.

Anybody know a knot that won't move? I have been using the serving knot like Greg/MO ties in the tech section with 4-6 wraps. Also tried some knots which is a bunch of overhand knots front to back. Sooner or later they move.

I notice some say drop a bit of glue on the knot with dental floss or waxed whatever. But I thought the glue would be bad if it made it to the string material.

recurver167 07-06-2008 06:26 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
I don't know what knot to use,but could you put it above the knock?Or you could check out some flyfishing knots.JMO

Arthur P 07-06-2008 10:45 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 

And like to tie it in. But I have a heck of a time getting it to stay in place.
That's why I always have a roll of dental floss or spool of thread with me. I've never found the perfect knot for a never-moving nock point either. [&:]

JimPic 07-07-2008 05:49 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
When I tie a nock on(I use fast-flite),I fold the string in half with one end longer than the other.Put the FF on the string where you want it set.Take the longer side and wrap as many times as you want towards the loop end,leaving the short tag end sticking out from under the wrapsthen run the tag end thru the open loop.Pull the shorter piece with pliers,this will bring the loop(with the long tag end)thru the wraps,giving a secure nock set.Trim the tag ends and put a drop of superglue or fletching glue on it.I hope that was understandable

bigcountry 07-07-2008 06:14 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 

ORIGINAL: JimPic

When I tie a nock on(I use fast-flite),I fold the string in half with one end longer than the other.Put the FF on the string where you want it set.Take the longer side and wrap as many times as you want towards the loop end,leaving the short tag end sticking out from under the wrapsthen run the tag end thru the open loop.Pull the shorter piece with pliers,this will bring the loop(with the long tag end)thru the wraps,giving a secure nock set.Trim the tag ends and put a drop of superglue or fletching glue on it.I hope that was understandable
That kinda sounds like my serving knot where I pull the tag end thru the wraps and then tighten. I guess I got to try the superglue.

rybohunter 07-07-2008 06:58 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
Glad to see I’m not the only one having an issue here. I had tied in my nock point with dental floss and it held up well, but I recently switched to serving thread to be “proper”. It doesn’t hold for anything. I may try the glue or just go back to my dental floss.

JimPic 07-07-2008 01:43 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry
That kinda sounds like my serving knot where I pull the tag end thru the wraps and then tighten. I guess I got to try the superglue.
Exactly--just like finishing off the serving.

BobCo19-65 07-07-2008 02:19 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
I actually like to be able to adjust mine. I do use a serving thread for the knot that is smaller thenserving though. I just usethe half knot over and under technique. If I need tomake the serving a little larger to match my nocks, I use dental floss.

woodnstix 07-07-2008 06:52 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
I only use string nocks. Less wear and tear on the shooting glove too. Here is good set of instructions, however instead of super glue which can eat away at a string I use Clear Nail Polish to seal the knot.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ragiwarmbear/diy/ton/tie.html

bigcountry 07-07-2008 08:07 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
Yea, I have tied this knot formany years, and find it will move on your faster than the serving knot. Maybe the glue is the secret. wood, does this knot ever move on you?

burniegoeasily 07-07-2008 10:58 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
Heck, I must be old school, ive always use brass nocks. I tie on string nots when im shooting a bow in, but that is just to break in the bow. Once I get the bow broke in and the nocking point set, I use a brass one.

What advantages do you all get by not using a brass nock? I might have to start pulling off my brass nocks.;)

JimPic 07-08-2008 06:05 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
I use a brass nock on a new string to set it.Once the proper nock is set,I'll tie one on.Brass nocks really tear up my tabs,if you're not careful crimping it on ot taking it off,you can damage the string(or at least the serving.Another advantage is I have many spools of fast flite and serving so I'll never have to buy brass nocks;)

bigcountry 07-08-2008 06:28 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

Heck, I must be old school, ive always use brass nocks. I tie on string nots when im shooting a bow in, but that is just to break in the bow. Once I get the bow broke in and the nocking point set, I use a brass one.

What advantages do you all get by not using a brass nock? I might have to start pulling off my brass nocks.;)
Well, not much, but I like to tie above and below arrow, and since I shoot 3 under, it seems to tear my damascus gloves after about 600 shots or more. And mostly about 3fps.

LBR 07-08-2008 09:16 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
When I tie on a nock-set, I use super glue to secure it--so far, never had a problems with it.

I usually use brass nock-sets though--don't get any wear-and-tear on a glove or tab. I think the "secret" here is using a good set of nocking pliers, and using them properly. I use the "Tru-Fire Pro" pliers, and when I crimp on a nock I crimp once,move the pliers 90 degrees or so and crimp again to assure I get it nice and round. These pliers also have a nock remover so you can take it off and not do any damage at all to the serving.

The brand nocks you use can also make a difference. I use Saunders--no problems with these.

For the record, I used Damascus gloves for years (one of the thinnest you can get), ABS Super gloves, and a Cavalier tab. My wife and son use calf-hair tabs.

I don't have any problems with tied-on nocks-sets, I just won't usually take the tiem to tie one on. Quicker and easier to just crimp brass and go.

Chad

bigcountry 07-08-2008 09:26 AM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
Chad, I never had issues when I shot split finger. Your not putting a ton of pressure on the brass nocks when you shoot split. But 3under, I seem to put alot of pressure under the arrow. Maybe not at the start of the draw, but definatley when at full draw. I also was using larger brass nocks and may have contributed to it.

LBR 07-09-2008 12:04 PM

RE: Good nocking point knot
 
Hadn't thought of that one BC. I never have shot 3-under, at least not more than a few shots--that could be theproblem.

Chad


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