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halfrack VIII 03-02-2008 08:41 PM

wooden or carbon
 
what are you all using through the trad. bows????

bigcountry 03-02-2008 08:51 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Thru my new zipper, I am using Gold Tip Traditionals with thier wieght system. Thru my Martin longbow and dreamcatcher, I shoot 2018 aluminums, and thru my new Osage selfbow, I just ordered some sitka spruce tapered shafts.

Arthur P 03-02-2008 09:15 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
What day? ;)Some days I shoot wood. Some days I shoot aluminum. Some days I shoot carbon/glass composite. All-carbon arrows are too light for my tastes, at least without some substantial additional weight, like brass inserts and 160+ grain heads.

Only exception is, I never shoot anything but wood from my selfbows.

ranger56528 03-02-2008 09:21 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
I shoot 50/55 ceder with my Hunter recurve and Longbow,but I shoot 400 beman clasics(carbon)with my PSE Kudu take down but now I think iam going with ceder with that too....

forkhorn04 03-02-2008 10:03 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Currently shooting carbons, because at college don't have theresources to make my woods. But I am missing POC!

JimPic 03-03-2008 04:56 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Alum's and carbons--gave up the cedars years ago

Wyvern Crossbow 03-03-2008 06:02 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Out of my own bows I just shoot wood. (Hexshafts to be exact, though there are a few cedars that I still shoot) Customers vary...many like the lack of maintainace that carbon affords....
Wyvern

LBR 03-03-2008 06:08 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
POC with my longbow and selfbow. May compete a little with my recurve this year, plan on shooting aluminum through it if I do. Only reason is I got a deal on a bunch of aluminum shafting a week or two ago.

Chad

Matt / PA 03-03-2008 07:25 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Carbon only for me.....I'm still a little too hard on arrows. :D
At the lower velocities these bows produce they can take a beating that's for sure. I haven't broken one yet. (Lost a couple :eek:;))

Chris W. 03-03-2008 07:29 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
The recurves get a mix of things but, recently, I've been shooting aluminums more often. The longbow and selfbow get mainly wood, sometimes aluminum off the longbow.

Schultzy 03-03-2008 07:35 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
2216 XX75 Aluminum's for me. In the future I may switch over to wood arrows.

jamesw319 03-12-2008 04:50 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
45/50 cedars and 2213 aluminum,45 /60 carbons..i shoot them all

jamesw319 03-12-2008 05:08 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
carbons are the most durable of the 3,,aluminum,,,wood,,the other 2

hatchet jack 03-12-2008 05:27 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
I shoot Full Metal Jackets 400's. There carbon centers with aluminum outside cover. So I gessI shoot aluminum and carbon:D

Hatchet Jack

txjourneyman 03-13-2008 05:36 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
2018 aluminum and POC

BobCo19-65 03-13-2008 06:11 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
I'm going to try carbons again. I had some ABS Grizzly carbons that I pretty much refused to shoot in fear of missing the target and destrying them. I had six of them that I think wereover $100 all set up for 6. I ended up selling them.
I going to get some cosmetic blem carbons and try again though.

I shoot aluminums pretty much all the time, but I have also been shooting a lot of firs that seem to hit the target everytime for me. They are a bit heavier then POC.

I'm also experimenting stuffing my aluminums with braided rope for some extra weight. Seems to be working well.

Arthur P 03-13-2008 07:37 AM

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LOL! I don't know which is worse... Having a bow that's sopretty you're afraid to take it hunting or arrows that are so expensive you're afraid to shoot them. :D

At least it's funny to me because I'm not suffering from either condition. ;)

BobCo19-65 03-13-2008 07:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Arthur P

LOL! I don't know which is worse... Having a bow that's sopretty you're afraid to take it hunting or arrows that are so expensive you're afraid to shoot them. :D

At least it's funny to me because I'm not suffering from either condition. ;)
It did stink, and I hated it. I like to be able to fling an arrow 70 yards at a target and not think twice. [:@]

Those arrows just sat there doing nothing till I decided to sell them. I took about a $20 loss on them which was prabably less then messing up one arrow. :DGlad they're gone!;)

Sparhawk 03-13-2008 07:54 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
I bought 100 Port Orford Cedar shatfs and make up a dozen arrows every six months or so. They're kinda like shooting telephone poles off my longbow but I enjoy the time spent staining and painting them.

Chris W. 03-13-2008 08:27 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 

carbons are the most durable of the 3,,aluminum,,,wood,,the other 2
In my experience, that's debatable. If you're talking about thin walled aluminums, 2213's and such,pretty much yes. The thicker walled aluminums hold up just as well, if not better. I've got some 2018's and 2115's that have far out lasted the majority of carbons I've shot in the last 6 years.

LBR 03-13-2008 08:33 AM

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LOL! I don't know which is worse... Having a bow that's sopretty you're afraid to take it hunting or arrows that are so expensive you're afraid to shoot them. :D
I was thinking the same thing! I've got a standing offer on a very nice, brand new, made for me bow. Problem is, it's a $1,200 bow--I can get it at a "bargain", but still......I decide I'm going to get it, then I start thinking "what the heck am I going to do with a $1,200 bow?????". I'm afraid it would never leave the shop, so I decide against it. Have that debate with myself on a regular basis.

That's one of the reasons I doubt I'll ever even try one of those $30 each broadheads--if I want to shoot at a squirrel or armidillo, I could never do it with one of those. And critters are just as dead with the "cheap" broadheads I use now, so I really don't see the point (no pun intended). Guess I could talk about the extra inch of penetration I got in the ground after the pass-through......

Chad

LittleChief 03-13-2008 09:40 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Below is what I've gotten so far. (Easton 2117's (total weight 600 grains) and POC 50/55's (total weight 489 grains)) While they both fly great, I still don't feel like I've found the right arrow yet. 'Course, I'm still really "green" in the trad department.



BobCo19-65 03-13-2008 10:22 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 

ORIGINAL: Chris W.


carbons are the most durable of the 3,,aluminum,,,wood,,the other 2
In my experience, that's debatable. If you're talking about thin walled aluminums, 2213's and such,pretty much yes. The thicker walled aluminums hold up just as well, if not better. I've got some 2018's and 2115's that have far out lasted the majority of carbons I've shot in the last 6 years.
I agree durability is very debatable.

I agree, the thin aluminums are not very durable compared to the thicker walled stuff. The 2020's are extremely durable.

Ed. Ashby also mentioned that hard wood arrows actually held up better then carbon on heavy bone.

Schultzy 03-13-2008 11:00 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65


ORIGINAL: Chris W.


carbons are the most durable of the 3,,aluminum,,,wood,,the other 2
In my experience, that's debatable. If you're talking about thin walled aluminums, 2213's and such,pretty much yes. The thicker walled aluminums hold up just as well, if not better. I've got some 2018's and 2115's that have far out lasted the majority of carbons I've shot in the last 6 years.
I agree durability is very debatable.

I agree, the thin aluminums are not very durable compared to the thicker walled stuff. The 2020's are extremely durable.

Ed. Ashby also mentioned that hard wood arrows actually held up better then carbon on heavy bone.
I've heard this from allot of people as well!

burniegoeasily 03-13-2008 11:23 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Ive shot them all and found carbon way to durable and easy to tune to ignore. Ive gotten real lazy and have gone with carbon on almost all my trad bows. It takes a matter of sec. and a chop saw to tune a carbon. No reading the grain or all the other headaches that come with wood. I always hated shooting an animal and have them break a wood shaft by rolling on it. With carbon, its not that big of a deal. Aluminum is great too, except it bends easy compared to the other two. Tuneing is easy with aluminum as well. Ill probably go back to wood. i just made up a dozen cedar shafts for a man that wanted them for a long bow I made him. It had been a long time, but I actually had a good time making these.

Arthur P 03-13-2008 11:31 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 

Ed. Ashby also mentioned that hard wood arrows actually held up better then carbon on heavy bone.
Have you read the Ashby interview in the latest issue of Traditional Bowhunter? The pics of the bent and broken threaded shanks of screw-in broadheads and inserts - even glue-in tapered broadhead adapters,were really something to see. The weak link. POC arrows didn't fare so well either.

BobCo19-65 03-13-2008 11:50 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
Yes, that was a great article. He sure knows how to break stuff doesn't he? :DI like how he listed things in order. I believe arrow integrety and arrow flight were number 1 and 2 (maybe not in that order though).

He also has another update out in March 2008.

Click_Here





BowHuntingFool 03-13-2008 12:06 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
There is a thread over at Trad Gang about the steel adapters. Looks like 2 different styles, one breaks and the other doesn't, interesting thread. Kinda bums me out I just ordered 75gr steel adapters and 125gr heads.....:eek:

BobCo19-65 03-14-2008 05:31 AM

RE: wooden or carbon
 

ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool

There is a thread over at Trad Gang about the steel adapters. Looks like 2 different styles, one breaks and the other doesn't, interesting thread. Kinda bums me out I just ordered 75gr steel adapters and 125gr heads.....:eek:
I don't think you will have to worry too much on deer sized game if thats how you plan to use them. I've used aluminum adapters which are no where near as strong as steel and have never had a problem. He tests the stuff to their limits.

Jasonlester 03-14-2008 02:17 PM

RE: wooden or carbon
 
here are my arrows. they are natures carbons, VERY tough




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