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Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 04:22 PM

Arrow Weight
 
Over the past few months i have been on HNI I have read a few things about arrow weight for traditional bowhunting. Now I think that most people aim for 400 grains in totalfor a whitetail arrow. But, then when it comes to bigger dangerous game like bears they want like 750 grains. Well my qeustion is, how do you get a 750 grain arrow to match to your bow if all you have been shooting is whitetail arrows? Do you just have to get a 750 grain arrow with the right spine then get used to shooting with it before your hunt?

manboy 08-25-2007 04:44 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
i use carbons, with wt tubes and a brass insert with 150 gr broadhead. i did have to cut them down a little bit.

jones123 08-25-2007 05:08 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Redneck I learned to use about 10 grains total arrow weight per pound of draw at your draw length.

But don't take my word for it. Have you joined the Leatherwall forum at Stickbow.com or Trad Gang? HNI is great, but there are lots of trad only shooters on these sites.

http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/lw/threadsx2.cfm

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 05:56 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Yes, I have been to those a few times but am not sighned up yet. You guys really haven't answered my question. I ask how you change your arrow weight for different game animals with out throwing out the wack of your bow do to the spine of the arrow.

PAstew 08-25-2007 06:40 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
You change the type of arrow you use. As stated, 8 to 10 grains per pound is the norm for whitetail.I shoot 55#'s, I use a 550 grain cedar arrow for deer. I could use less but, The bow is much quieter and performs muchbetter. I'm going on a wild bore hunt at the end of Jan 08. I'll move up to a 60 lbs bow with a 750 grain arrow. You do this by either using weight tubes like manboy said, They come in 2, 3, 5, and 8 grains per inch. Which will only increase the weight of the carbon or aluminum arrow, or like I'll do, is use a lamenated birch arrow instead of cedar. There are many hard wood shafts that are excellent heavy arrows. Maple, Ash, Oak, Hickory andLam. Birch are a few. You can ask for a hard wood arrow that is spined for 50/55's and weigh 600 grains bare shaft. Which will give you about 650 grains at 28 incheswhen finished.

Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 07:09 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Ok, but with this extra grain arrow, do I have to go to a heavier bow, so that they are spined right or can I shoot them out of my normal draw weight #45 at 28''. My DL with a trad bow is 28''.

JimPic 08-25-2007 07:37 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
You don't have to go up in bow weight--you may have to go up in arrow spine if you use a heavy head to get the arrow up to the desired weight

Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 08:19 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Ok, gotcha. But, do they make special arrows other than wood that are desighned for tough hide dangerous game. I mean do they make an arrow that is heavier than normal just to get your arrow weight up instead of depending on the head to do that? Sorry for all the questions.

manboy 08-25-2007 08:51 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
redneck,
i use a gt 55/75 out of a 56# longbow and out of a 60# longbow, i have a buddy, huntnmuleys, he also has a recurve that is 65# at 26.5" and uses 55/75.
the point is that if you choose a carbon shaft you could add wt tubes as i did for my up coming moose hunt in sept. or you could take them out for a little more speed on the whitetail hunts.
it is all just a little time tuning to get what you need. remember the length of you shaft makes a huge differance on the stiffness, and also how heavy of a broadhead you use.

JimPic 08-25-2007 08:52 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Grizzley Stix weigh in at 15gr/inch--one of the heaviest carbons on the market.If you want to get arrow weight up but don't want to use a heavy head,you can use weight tubes,weedeater line,poly rope in the arrow to do that

Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 10:15 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Ok, thanks guys. I finally understand what to use now. I want to hunt grizzly's sometime, but that will not be for awhile. Thanks again.

jones123 08-25-2007 10:31 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Looks like you got plenty of help on this site. So did I by reading this thread. Thanks

Redneck Bowhunter 08-25-2007 10:37 PM

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Yup, sure did. Thats is why I love HNI. I just can't beliveI didn't find it sooner.[:@][:@]

PAstew 08-26-2007 07:39 AM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Redneck,

You don't have to go up in bow weight to use a heavier arrow. You won't have the arrow cast of a lighter arrow but, it will make your bow more efficient. But, if you're going to hunt Griz, you'll need to jump up in bow weight any way. At least 55 to 60 lbs draw at your draw length. So, you will need a new matched set of arrows for that draw weight. There are plenty of arrow combinations out there. As I said earlier, A hard wood shaft is the easiest way to acheive a heavy arrow. When tuned properly, they fly just as true as any carbon or aluminum.

Redneck Bowhunter 08-26-2007 10:41 AM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
O yaI forgot anout you have to use more weight for bears.[&:] Well, i don't really agree with you on wthe wood shafts. I have used them before andthe bow was perfectly in tune and was shoooting awesome with aluminums. But, then when we tried out cedar shafts we couldn't hit he broadside of a barn. Then I looked down the shaft of them and they were all warped. I do not know about the hardwoods but them cedars sure didn't work for me.

PAstew 08-26-2007 04:04 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
If the cedars were warpped then they need to be straightend again. Plus, you have to make sure you are shooting the correct spine wood arrow. The best way to do this is by bare shaft shooting them to 15 yards. Don't give up on the wood shafts. They are very accurate and better looking than carbon or aluminums.

Redneck Bowhunter 08-26-2007 04:56 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Yes they were the right spine. How do you straighten them? I like the aluminums with the wood grain pattern;).

PAstew 08-27-2007 05:06 PM

RE: Arrow Weight
 
Look down the shaft from the fletchings to the point. Apply gentle pressure opposite the bend until it becomes straight. If the arrows you used were that warped, try getting shafts from elite arrows. Great arrows at a great price.


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