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bigcountry 06-24-2006 01:51 PM

Open or close stance
 
I have read several books on traditional shooting. Bryon Ferg's book talked about open and closed stance. He said if too open, you can hurt your shoulder.

Ok, what is too open and what is too closed? Is too open when your right foot (right handed) is little forward? Is too closed where your feet position is 45 degrees away from target instead of 90degrees?

LBR 06-24-2006 08:47 PM

RE: Open or close stance
 
Honestly I've never thought much about it--I position myself so I am as balanced as possible. At practically all of the tournaments I shoot, there areshots where you have to get in all sorts of odd positions. Ideally, my shoulders are perpendicular to the target, but that's not always possible either.

Chad

Wingbone 06-25-2006 06:03 AM

RE: Open or close stance
 
For me, it's too open when my draw length starts dropping. It's too closed when I start getting too much string slap on my arm.

BobCo19-65 06-26-2006 07:11 AM

RE: Open or close stance
 


What works for one person may not work for another. Personally, I shoot a little more closed. Kind of inbetween the pictures above. Try to find the correct stance that matches your draw whille keeping in line with the target. For example, look at your target, now pull your bow back to full draw. See where the arrow is pointed, do you have to adjust left/right? Remember that you should not move you bow arm, to make the adjustment needed (use your waist to adjust). You can use your stance position to correct this left right adjustment if needed. If you pull back your bow and you are right on target (left/right), then do not worry about your stance position.

bigcountry 06-26-2006 07:49 AM

RE: Open or close stance
 
Excellent diagram. I was thinking the opposite. I started with the open stance like I had a compound, and my muscle at the corner of the shoulder hurt something awful every once in a while. Sharp pain that would come unexpectily. Guess that explaines it.

Big Red Porkers 06-26-2006 07:59 AM

RE: Open or close stance
 
You need to be flexible to shoot in ANY position. If you're a target shooter than pick one and go with it, I suppose, but in hunting situations, you better be able to shoot open stance, close stance, on your knees, all bent over and crunched up, off to one side ......... I watched a Fred Bear shot on a video and he only 3/4 drew the bow on a fast walking muley buck - but because he had shot so often like that I imagine, the arrow went where his mind/body told it to go.

That said, when I practice, I shoot more of a square stance I think, I don't hunch over, I don't push/pull like Asbell does, I shoot more target style I imagine than anything.



bigcountry 06-27-2006 11:42 AM

RE: Open or close stance
 

ORIGINAL: Big Red Porkers

You need to be flexible to shoot in ANY position. If you're a target shooter than pick one and go with it, I suppose, but in hunting situations, you better be able to shoot open stance, close stance, on your knees, all bent over and crunched up, off to one side ......... I watched a Fred Bear shot on a video and he only 3/4 drew the bow on a fast walking muley buck - but because he had shot so often like that I imagine, the arrow went where his mind/body told it to go.

That said, when I practice, I shoot more of a square stance I think, I don't hunch over, I don't push/pull like Asbell does, I shoot more target style I imagine than anything.


Sure, that may be true for someone who has been shootin for a while. But doesn't apply I don't think to someone just starting.

Double Creek 06-27-2006 02:40 PM

RE: Open or close stance
 
I finally realized that my stance really didn't matter that much at hunting distances.. I kept battling my stance to get good flight, but that was just a cover up for form issues and bad tuning....

A hunter needs to be prepared to shoot from all positions.....I practice all, but my typical stance is open....

Sagittarius 06-29-2006 05:36 PM

RE: Open or close stance
 
Messed up; "X" it.
Try later.

Alex The Hawk 06-29-2006 06:24 PM

RE: Open or close stance
 

ORIGINAL: Big Red Porkers

You need to be flexible to shoot in ANY position. If you're a target shooter than pick one and go with it, I suppose, but in hunting situations, you better be able to shoot open stance, close stance, on your knees, all bent over and crunched up, off to one side ......... I watched a Fred Bear shot on a video and he only 3/4 drew the bow on a fast walking muley buck - but because he had shot so often like that I imagine, the arrow went where his mind/body told it to go.

That said, when I practice, I shoot more of a square stance I think, I don't hunch over, I don't push/pull like Asbell does, I shoot more target style I imagine than anything.


That is why I set up a target area around my property, I let the kids set up the targets anywhere so I don't know when I will find them, then I will shoot at them at whatever position I froze when I saw it first.
It has improved my stocking and kill ratio by 80%


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