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bigcountry 03-28-2006 07:34 AM

Form/release Questions
 
Ok, been shooting my bow for almost two weeks. Its a martin longbow.

Ok, I feel good shooting three fingers under. I tend to pinch the arrow, and sometimes comes off the shelf with split finger. But three finger under, I have trouble aligning arrow with my eye. So what I have been doin is canting more.

With the nock point set .5" above centerline, I am also hitting bare shafts low. I am sure this is due to my three finger approach.

Is there any down sides to the three finger under arrow approach?

Alex The Hawk 03-28-2006 08:13 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
can you post a pic of how your holding the bow, how long is that bow ?

BobCo19-65 03-28-2006 08:33 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
I may be a bit confused. Do you mean you are shooting with four fingers on the string?

Depending on how the bow is tillered, you may have a slight problem shooting three under.

bigcountry 03-28-2006 08:56 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

I may be a bit confused. Do you mean you are shooting with four fingers on the string?

Depending on how the bow is tillered, you may have a slight problem shooting three under.
Nope, three on the string, just all under the arrow. I seen some do it and decided to try it. Basically the arrow is under the nock point.

bigcountry 03-28-2006 08:57 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
Alex its 62". I will try to get a picture of my form tonight. You guys can rip it up. I would hate to start out with really bad habits that are hard to get rid of.

LBR 03-28-2006 09:10 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
Get Byron Ferguson's book "Become the Arrow" and Ricky Welch's video "Instinctive Archery, Volume II". You can't follow both exactly, because they have different styles, but both will help.

Shooting 3-under will give you a lower point of impact if you use the arrow as a referance, but otherwise it should cause no adverse effects, other than possibly a noisier bow. Chek-Mate did some testing--had a "pro" shooter shoot a bow tillered for split, 3-under, and even reverse tillered (tillered for 3-under, but upside down) and there was no change in accuracy, just bow noise.

I know, and have seen, guys that are VERY accurate--some shoot split, some shoot 3-under.

Chad

Lone_wolf1966 03-28-2006 09:59 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
Are you attempting to shoot Instictive? If you are, you can not shoot instictive three fingers under. If you do shoot three fingers under, you are shooting point of aim.........in other words, you are aligining with the point of the shaft. In order to truly shoot Instinctive, you must shoot split finger. I have only known of one person, for what ever reason, to shoot three under and be able to shot instinctive. The norm however is split finger.........instinctive........three under............point of aim.
Hope this helps a little.

bigcountry 03-28-2006 10:03 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
thanks, good info guys. Yea, I am trying to work on my form so right now its little instintive, little aligning arrow.

Double Creek 03-28-2006 10:04 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
I don't think so Lone wolf1966........ I shoot 3 under and I dang sure don't shoot point of aim..... I don't shoot instinctively either... I shoot off a sight picture for 20 and under and 20+ I shoot split vision....

bigcountry 03-28-2006 10:09 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 
What does that mean? You guys have exceeded my intelligence. Now I am confused. What is sight picture.

BobCo19-65 03-28-2006 10:59 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 

Chek-Mate did some testing--had a "pro" shooter shoot a bow tillered for split, 3-under, and even reverse tillered (tillered for 3-under, but upside down) and there was no change in accuracy, just bow noise.
You may also experience a little different pivot point in the grip of your bow.

Double Creek 03-28-2006 11:34 AM

RE: Form/release Questions
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

What does that mean? You guys have exceeded my intelligence. Now I am confused. What is sight picture.

It means you've got some reading and some trying out different methods to do :D

A sight picture is fairly hard to explain, but it's a simple concept... Basically, you're brain recognizes what 10yds, 12 yds, 18 yds, etc looks like and you subconscienceously make adjustments while coming to anchor for whatever distance you are shooting.... It comes with practice....

Split vision is fairly similar, but you also keep in mind where the arrow is in relation to the target... All the while concentrating on the spot....

For instance, from 0-20, I never think about the arrow at all.... I just pull back and shoot when it feels good... When I start getting out to 25+, I then start paying more attention to my arrow..... At 40yds, I know my arrow will be dead center of the target, at 30yds, it will be 6-8 inches below and so on.....

Just get out there and practice everyday and this mumbo jumbo will start making sense..... Don't be scared to try new techniques.... For instance, I absolutely can not anchor in my mouth... I can't understand how anyone could... BUT, my face and build is apparantly different that a lot of others... Go with what works......


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