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Troy n Oh 10-14-2002 08:55 AM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
Your arrow spine will depend on your draw also.If you are pulling 28" and the bow is 50# a 2018 shaft with a 125 grain head would be pretty close for aluminum.If you wanted to shoot wood the best way to get the proper spine would be to order a set of test shafts.They would come in a few spines that are close so you could see which one YOUR bow likes best.Hope that helps some

Troy

Muddler 10-14-2002 09:14 AM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
I shoot a 50# Bear Kodiak Hunter. My draw is 27.5" and I seem to get good arrow flight using 2018 shafts cut to 29" with 140 gr tips.

Wahya 10-14-2002 12:02 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
Welcome Tim, it's good to see you here.

I'm thinking that the 2018 might be a tad stiff at 29". But then, it's different for all of us. Release plays a big part of what spine you'll need, as a stiffer arrow will compensate for a less than smooth release, as will large fletching and a weaker spine is needed for non center shot bows so that they can flex and bend around the riser as they leave the shelf. Length of the shaft, point weight, string material, draw length, bow design and brace height also play an important role in what spine arrow will fly best from your bow. First thing to do is get your draw measured with the bow and then get the bow weighed at your draw. Then I'd contact arrow fletchers that will sell you a variety of tuning shafts, say in the 45-50, 50-55 and 55-60 spine groups so that you can get zero'd in on closest spine and then tune the bow by adjusting brace height, nock point and so on, to get the perfect arrow flight needed for optimum accuracy and penetration.

If you keep the total weight of the arrow around 10g per # of actual draw weight, you'll be good in that department. Some like to go heavier and some lighter, but most seem to agree with the 10g rule.

Edited by - wahya on 10/14/2002 13:02:58

True Position 10-14-2002 12:18 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
I'd have to echo the sentiment of what your bow likes best. Try a bunch to get it figured out correctly. I followed O.L. Adocks advise on bare shafting and found that I was underspined. I'll suggest the 2018 with a heavier head, but also try a 1916 and maybe a few others too with different points.
This article was a god send to me. Sure it took me a few trips to the store and a bunch fiddling around but now I have no doubts about my arrow tune. Check it out:
http://www.bowmaker.net/index2.htm

Cliff_N_Di 10-14-2002 02:08 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
What type of arrow do you want to shoot?
Wood, carbon, alum.


Dick4bows 10-14-2002 03:47 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
First, 50#'s is plenty for deer sized game. Don't sweat the heavy arrows. I use 3555 Gold Tips out of my recurve. I have 2 sets of limbs (45# and 55#). These arrows shoot well out of both setups. For aluminum, I shoot 1916's for the 45# setup and 2016's for the 55# set up. 2018's will work with extra heavy points. In my opinion, good arrow flight with 2 blade heads beats heavy anytime. Dick


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Cliff_N_Di 10-15-2002 08:38 AM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
You can buy woods arrows in some places for about the same price as aluminum arrows.

If you do shoot aluminum I would get feathers on them instead of plastic vanes, unless you have a elevated rest and are not shooting off the shelf.Plastic vanes tend to "bounce" off a shelf.


CaptJack 10-17-2002 12:18 AM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
I've been using 2018s with Zwickey 125grn Eskimos heads for about 30yrs. I use the same arrows in all three of my hunting bows-
Quadraflex 60# compound, 55# Partner's(Palmer)TD &a 45# B-riser Bear TD. One thing I learned many years ago is that heavy arrows have much more killing ability than light arrows and they are always more forgiving. I also only use feathers on my hunting arrows- even on the compound.

CaptJack
Be a better Hunter - Get a better Shot

Edited by - CaptJack on 10/17/2002 18:35:53

Strongbow 10-19-2002 10:54 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
Capt Jack,

What is the reason for feathers only on your hunting arrows?
I know there are those that use plastic vanes. Did you find
a big difference in a hunting situation between vanes and
feathers? Thanks.


CaptJack 10-19-2002 11:35 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
Strongbow- feathers are much more forgiving than vanes- they're a little slower but also quieter in flight. In competition on a field range where the distances are up to 80yds- vanes give you much flatter arrow flight but when we're bow hunting we want stability and dependability. Your string knock can be a little off- your brace height down a little from string stretch- whatever- you're going to get better flight from the feathers (even when they get wet).
Everyone gets so excited about speed. Since most bow kills are around 20yds and less than 10% are 40yds why do we need all the speed.
All we need is a forgiving, easy to shoot 45# recurve with a good strong aluminum arrow, bullet-proof, very sharp, hard carbon steel broadhead with an arrow weight over 550grains. You'll shoot through most every time. The dozen 2018s I'm using now are 30yrs old!- killed over 20 animals with the same dozen- probably won't ever need to buy any more. I do have a fletching jig and replace the occasional smashed feather while watching TV on the coffee table :) I've never completely refletched any of them, just the damaged feathers.
KeepItSimple!

This is my Partners bow- it's 15yrs old- there's the 30yr old 2018s with Zwickey 125grn 2blade Eskimos- note one of them is a FluFlu with five full fletches- it also has an "adder" behind the broadhead. I also duck & goose hunt with my bows. The adder slows down the penetration on impact- works sort of like a judo point but screws in behind a regular broadhead- I'll post a pic later.






CaptJack
Be a better Hunter - Get a better Shot

Edited by - CaptJack on 10/20/2002 00:38:04

Strongbow 10-20-2002 12:51 PM

RE: Arrow info needed for recurve
 
Capt Jack,

Thanks for answering my question about feathers versus vanes
in a hunting situation.


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