Well i was just sitting here thinking to myself if we get better and better bows every year how long can it keep up

1. There has to be a point in time where we can no longer get any better at making them and any faster if we keep up at this rate we will have bows that shoot 600 fps and make no sound and have no vibration at all and then what will happen will other bow companys just become obsolete that can not keep up ith the competition but make a fine bow.

2. When ever a new bow comes out we must have it ( well i fell tht way but i cant get it) and we rig it out to the full potential but whatever happened to the longbow a recurve bow hunting it has just become a past of our fine sport that all it involved was being able to aim and make a good shot and pull back the bow.

It was just something that came to me while i was sitting here

well if the other companies cant keep up that means Very nice cheap bows for us...if they ever come out with bows that fast so be it... 260 fps is enough to kill adeer come on now... i would love to shoot a long bow in the future and make my own arrows thatd be swttt[:-]

Have to agree with Ohiobowhunter56, my older Mathews is fast enough to kill deer and as long as it does, I see no need to change..... 600, wow could have arrow races! [8D]

Eventually the engineers will create a bow that is so advanced it doesn't qualify as a "primitive" weapon. We've already been down that road to a certain degree...Remember when high let-off bows didn't qualify for P&Y?
Now, I certainly wouldn't want to still be shooting my Darton SL-50 @ 50% let-off (although I remember how nice it seemed in 1980), but I think my Trykon will be the bow they bury me with!

Interesting, I still shoot my recurve *bear superkodiak* and I love it, That's a good question though. There has to be some point where we get as good as it can be.

After a person decides to actually try bowhunting, and I mean bowhunting as a sport that doesn't focus on the killing rather its a focus on the journey of the arrow, everything changes. Bowhunting is recurves and longbows, no letoffs, no fancy gadgets, a thing where speed doesn't matter and the drive to make things easier is replaced with making the hunt more difficult.

And ironically, making it MORE difficult increases what people get out of hunting.

Compounds have done amazing things to the archery world, and they have done terrible things as well.

What's funny is while we sit here drooling over the latest and greatest, next years "big new" bows are being designed and test fired at the various factories.

I'm not sure how much further archery can get, but I bet we were saying the same thing back in ~1995 when the "solo" cam had taken over as supreme gotta have rig.

Let me tell you, back in 1975 I was at a college doing a speech class and I did a speech on the "New" Bear whitetail I had got. It was a noisey gadget and after my recurve I did not think the compound would take. And the controversy. Aboout 20 years, give or take later, I picked up a bow again. I was impressed how far they had come. I ended up a few years ago, 2002 with a Mathews Ultra Max, the sweetest bow I laid hands on. And I switched to a release and havent put the bow down much since.

As an older timer, I have to aske myself what the need for speed is. we have lighter arrows, faster bows, and why. We were killing deer with recurves and shooting bulls eyes with them, some pretty well! So why are we not focusing on accuracy and practice and hitting what you aim for. And I am not the only one to say it, whether it be a recurve, long bow, fast compound or slow compound, they all kill and kill effectively. All that means is the arrows passes through quicker. Why the need for speed is all i am asking, i never understood. I can hit the the cirle over and over with my Ultra Max, and i never have really had it tested for speed. But you know the deer I shot probably didnt notice whether it went at 250 or 500. All that mattered was deer in the freezer.

And I am curious, why the need for speed? And not being sarcastic, just really dont understand?

I wouldn't doubt in the future states put more archery restrictions on...or set a season alone for compounds.

JLmoore1956a co-worker of mine bought a used Parker off ArcheryTalk 2 weeks ago. 3 days after getting it, he took it hunting. He hasn't shot archery in many years, yet with this somewhat lower class compound, release, sights and rest, he was able to shoot time after time 3" groups at 20 yards with it.

Very, very few people could hit a 12" target every time after 3 days with a recurve or longbow, let alone 3" groups

Thats the difference, a compound is designed to make shooting easier plane and simple, and with each year it gets easier. I think something is being lost with that concept. And oddly enough, the compound is designed to make the shooting easier, yet most bowhunters hate the idea of crossbows, which ironically, are designed also to make the shooting easier