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I know this has probaly been asked before but I can't find it. Does STS system elementate the need for string silencers? Is the a thoud or popping sound when the string strikes it? And Does it effect the tune of your bow and is there a speed loss or gain when using it.

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i would also like to know those answers! thanks:)

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Since nobodies jumping in, I'll give my 2 cents.

Does STS system elementate the need for string silencers?

I would say that it would eliminate at least one. I plan on running a solitary string leech or cat whisker on top.

Is there a thoud or popping sound when the string strikes it?

I hear a slight thud myself.

And Does it effect the tune of your bow and is there a speed loss or gain when using it.

No speed gained or loss. The only way I could see it affecting the tune is if your set up was previously dialed in to account for any nock point travel that occured past the idle brace height of the bow.

idle brace height of the bow I'm sure there is a fancy archery term for what I'm trying to say, maybe this will help- (foreward movement of the string during the shot sequence which occurs beyond the measured brace height towards the riser)

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My experience with my version of it mirrors Dave's on all counts. I have not paper-tuned the bow either before or after installing the device so I cannot comment on how it may affect that aspect of the tuning process. However, I can attest that it has not affected my group size with field points. Since I do not shoot exposed blade broadheads I cannot comment on its effect of that either.

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I've read several threads regarding the STS on a couple sites now and everyone seems to love it. But the majority have had similar responses as this one. My question is, what exactly does the STS do for you?

It makes a slight thud noise. Speed doesn't change one way or the other. Groups don't seem to change any. Etc...

I'm guessing the advantages are supposed to be a reduction in noise and string vibration. But if you say the STS can replace one string silencer, then why not just install the other string silencer that came in the pack when you bought them instead of buying the STS?

I guess I'm missing something.

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There is no need for any string silencers. I removed both of my string leeches after installing the STS and did not pick up any sound, however I did gain 7 FPS. There is almost no hand shock or sound I get comments all the time about how quiet my bow is. Trust me it's a sound investment and you will be happy.

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Am I the only one that has a louder bow because of the STS? My bow has a terrible thumping sound because of the STS. I'm not going to use it for hunting. Oh well, the verdict is still out on the accuracy. No gain in speed for me, I didn't have string silencers.

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It reduced vibration substantially on my bow (Reflex Grizzly) and eliminated all arm slap which will be the biggest benefit when wearing heavy clothes in the fall, likely not as importtant to Southern hunters. Definitely reduced noise as well.

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Jeepnut, I guess the best benefit for myself is knowing my string is stopping at the measured brace height location (idle bow) or at least very close to it. Instead of traveling forewards during the shot sequence.

If your shooting a bow under 7" brace height this improovement will help you get by with a larger sleeve and you shouldn't experience the wrist string slap if your form should ever fall short of "good". My Z-light (6.5" brace) will give a good form reminder every now and then. I'm hoping an STS will cure that from occuring.

The STS I've put on my Patriot hasn't improved it much. It is plenty smooth by itself.

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Well I did some more testing tonight. My bow slowed down 4 FPS with the sts system installed. Hope to do some more testing Sunday.

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i just added a floating yoke to my patriot. it eliminated the need for any string silencers on my cable. i shoot a sts, and for whatever reason, with the floating yoke, i don't need any silencer on my string either, where i did with a static yoke. i just made a floating yoke for my neighbors extreme vft. it had the same effect on his. i don't know why. i know davec is also in the process of testing out the floating yoke on his patriot, so we'll see if it has any effect on his. but preliminary testing of 150-200 shots and i think the floating yoke and sts are it for me. it also makes the draw a lot smoother in both my neighbors and my opinion (and it looks cool)

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Gibblet,
That sounds real interesting. Any way you could post a pic for us to see?

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Gibblet,
Your at it again are ya? Nubo and I did some turkey hunting today and he was telling me about how you were expirementing with the floating Yokes. If in fact it turns out to be a plus I will likely want a set as I have an 03 Patriot Dually with 60lb limbs hopefully already shipped to me from an ebay auction last week that has the original strings on it. Let us know how it works out, and I already have the STS. Have you run chrono tests? Thinking maybe I need a string with a small patch of serving where the STS touches the string. A solid green yoke and green and black strings & cables sounds cool looking :D

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terry, i've got mine served where they touch with string material. if you pm me your addy i'll send you enough to do it. i figured string material is lighter and will flex easier. i'll see if i can't get a pic up of the floater.

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ok, lets see if i can remember how to do this.... the floating yoke...

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don't know why its sooooo big, but you can see it. at rest you can tell that it has the effect of shortening one side of a static yoke. it balances the pressure on the limbs. the advantage here is that there is slight motion on the floating assembly throughout the draw, effectively evenly distributing the tension throughout the entire drawing cycle and its very noticable. i got the ok for this from pat dinan (bowtechshooter) and the dimensions for the system from a hoyt guru. the disadvantage with a static yoke is you can only even out the pressure at 1 point of the draw cycle, period. what point will you choose, at rest? at full draw? i just wanted to try it out. i never expected it to quiet the bow down. i didn't expect it to make the draw smoother and take out some hand shock. i realize this can be a hot button issue for some people, i'm only telling you my experience. like i said, it impressed my neighbor so much he had to have one for his extreme and it had the same effect. if it has any effect on speed it is a positive one. davec is busy testing and hopefully we'll hear from him. my neighbor doesn't have a sts, but with the floating yoke with nothing on the cable its quieter (much) and calmer in the hand than it was with the static cable with 2 bowtech silencers. go figure.

swampdog, its just scary to think about what your liberty would feel like with one.

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Nice job, gibblet!

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thank you nodog!

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Thanks for posting that pic, gibblet.

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With some bows it allows for you to take off your string scilencers. I just put smaller ones on. I have yet to see one make a bow louder. It always makes them quieter. Everyone says that my bow is the quietest they have heard.

Speed... No it never takes away speed. Does it add any. Sometimes, but very little. Unless you remove your string scilencers.

Does it affect your tune. It didn't affect mine. It can shrink your groups a touch though by eliminating a touch of human error. But just a little.