If You Were To? (Techies)
 

Open up a new Bow company that was going to enter the market with a new line of bow's,what would you do differently to compete with the established Brand's.What quality features would you incorporate into your design's ie Limb's/riser/Cam's.Also what would be the name of the new company,to peak someone's interest to check out your offering's?

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

HiddenHunter, this is a great question. Give me a while to think about it. Ill have an answer soon.

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Ok....I got it all figured out. I would use split limbs similiar to hoyts xt200s. My limb pockets would have sims technology built in. I would use factory installed limb savers. I limbs would be angled a lot.(kinda like the Q2). I would use a highly reflexed carbon riser. It would have about 2 inches of reflex geometry, but still mantain a 7 inch brace height because of the extreme angle of the limbs. This way you get balance and forgiveness. I think I would use a grip simaliar to pearsons 20 degree bio grip, but just a little slimmer at the throat. I would use a cam simaliar to the straightline max cam 2 and versacam. Like the versa cam I would offer somewhere around 4 inches of adjustability without the use of a bowpress. I would also offer let off adjustment from 65 to 80. Hopefully with the carbon riser and split limbs the bow would stay in the low 3 pound range. I say about 35 to 36 inches A-to-A makes a good all around bow. To top it off I would cover it in realtree hardwoods camo. The price tag would be about $650. LoL....anybody ready to buy one. It would be called the Sams ds36. Great all around bow<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

Oh yea....here are the specs:
A-to-A length: 35 1/2&quot;
brace height: 7.125
weight: 3lbs 4 oz.
IBO: 316 fps
AMO: 243 fps
let off: adj. 65%-80%

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

I think the biggest thing a new company could do to stand out above the rest would be to offer a variety of different specs. For example I know alot of guys who wont buy mathews because they want split limbs. Alot of people wont buy hoyt because they want solid limbs. I'm stuck shooting the pearson anaconda because I love the bio-grip but I would love to have the bio-grip on a solid limb bow with an ata of 38&quot; and a 7.5&quot; brace height. Alot of people feel the same way I do. The key word VARIETY!

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RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

I think all bow companies should use the following, basic, but quality items in all their bows.

-carbon cable guards
-teflon cable slides
-dual track idler wheels
-offer more than one camo option

These are not big issues, and I feel that it is a shame that the big companies won't offer them.

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

If I owned my own company, I wouldn't even try and compete with the big ones, I would have the best straight foward customer service on the planet, anyone wanting question answered, would have them answered directly by me. I would educate myself very well so that I could understand any situation equipment problems, shooting problems, I would have people working for me that were highly educated, and when they had to answer any customer questions wouldn't give them one liners off a webpage. I would have a lifetime warranty you break it we fix it, unless dryfired, that would be my only problem, but I would still give that person the benifit of the doubt the first time and fix the bow. Except for strings and cables also, I wouldnt wanna be a charity. I would build bows, SHORT ATA, and Long ATA, no sizes in between. I find that there are to many sizes in the larger companies, the way I see it, you are a target archer or a hunter, 41&quot; and up for long, 32&quot; and as low as you can go for shorties. I would have all camo's and figure out away to anodize rather then paint the camo on. I would even put predator on some of my bow's cause I know alot of people like predator camo. I would have a module in my cam for 3-4 &quot; draw adjustment. Machine riser with integral limb pockets, forged before machining. I would have an option for a custom bow, with titanium riser if anyone wanted the benifits. Carbon recurve limbs, like Merlin. The titanium would only be an exoskeleton and I would fill it in with a vibration dampening substance, also the limb pockets would have vibration dampening. My prices would range from $500 full set up, to as high a price as the person wants to spend.
I would have honest trust worthy people working for me, So no bulling the customer.
I would regulate the size of my companies growth to not get to big and start putting out garbage bows. My company would travel by word of mouth and over the internet with out alot of advertisement and brainwashing product speals. All of my bows would be built on order and no mass production, its worth the wait for really good equipment. I would stay away from pot shotting other companies, but it wouldnt matter because I would make sure my equipment was cutting edge anyways. Thats all I can think of for now.
good shooting.
Dylan
ps. I guess no matter what you build you will never always fully satisfy the customer so it wouldn't really matter.
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Edited by - 55#recurve on 01/08/2002 22:21:31

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

I would build custome longbows & recurves.....this way you just don't have to worry about anything but making a good product!

RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

How about this idea:

Set up some production subcontractors from the Former Soviet Union or Eastern Bloc since it seems they have enough technical skill to machine decent quality components at low prices. And they are desperate to make inroads into the US market place. They might even work on a commision basis so you wouldn`t have to pay for product that you haven`t sold.

Import all the parts and warehouse them in Mexico where labor and commercial costs are cheap. Plus there are no tariffs thank you, NAFTA.

Sell them only through catalogs or the internet. Especially hammer into Ebay with a &quot;Buy Me Now&quot; price that is at least 25% over the overall cost of goods sold.

Don`t sell to pro-shops or retail outlets who would interfere with the producer/consumer interface and increase prices.

Designs for bow components would be taken from other manufacturers non-patent protected designs or would be altered enough not to violate patents. Keep no R&D staff.

Each bow would be ordered by the customer using a menu system much like you would custom order a computer: style &quot;a&quot; riser, type &quot;3&quot; limbs, cam design &quot;alpha&quot;, etc. Compatability of parts would be verified using a simple online computer program much like Dell Computer has on its website.

Ship the bow to the customers unassembled so they could &quot;build it themselves&quot; and save you a bunch of money you would spend on trained assemblers.

Promote the bows through BBS systems by creating numerous user ID`s and touting the enlighening &quot;experience of building it yourself.&quot; Establish a mythology about the company even before you ship the first product.

Establish a &quot;900&quot; number for tech support for those ham-fisted individuals who can`t follow the basic assembly instructions.

The target market would be archers who want to experiment with the more technical side of compound bow building. A complete &quot;custom bow kit&quot; would probably retail between $300 and $400 dollars which is high enough to imply quality but low enough to exhibit affordability. A net profit per unit of 25% over cost should be the goal.

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RE: If You Were To? (Techies)
 

AHAHAHAH, that was great.

Thanks for the good laugh.
Dylan

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