Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Picked up my new Justice on Saturday. The shop owner helped me "tune" it with the Trophy Taker dropaway. Didn't pay attention until we got home, but I am getting pretty major vane contact on the rest. I am shooting cock vane down. No clue how to adjust this problem or what exactly the problem is. I am assuming that the rest is not dropping quick enough? Detailed help would be appreciated! Can't shoot with the vanes in any other position because it looks like the rest cable will contact the vane.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Easist way I have found to set most cord operated drop away is to serve the string a few times around but not so much or so tight that the cord will not pull through the serving. Draw the bow back and you will see the cord pull up the rest then pull itself through the serving. Let it down and serve it in the rest of the way very tight. Now put a big glob of wax on the cable under the tag end of the cord right up next to the serving. Cut the cord and melt the end so it won't pull through. The wax is to protect the cable from the fire.

Now your rest should come up about the last few inches of draw and drop long before the fletching gets to the rest.

I also do not split the bows cable and put the cord through the middle. I have found that with the cord through the cable it tends to wear out the cable faster in that spot. The cord is fairly rough and rubs the inside of the bows cable.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Unscrew the screw that attaches the rest to the bow, cut the string attached to your cable, and throw it away! LOL I'm just kidding. I have the TTSH rest and LOVE it.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Lady, big bulls is right the launcher arm should be all the way up the last few inches of your drae cycle. To get the rest to do this, I take the string from the rest and put it through the downward pulling cable. Next I serve the cable directly above the cord from the launcher arm. The cord from the launchere arm should extend through the cable about 3 inches (extra). This extra cord will give you room to play with the rate at which the launcher arm will fall. Tie a knot in the launcher cord behind the cable, draw the bow and see when the arm is fully up. Now you can use the extra to fine tune the drop rate. You can untie the knot and move it out or move it closer which ever you need to do. Hope this helps.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Can I make this adjustment after the rest has already been installed? Will I need a new rest "string" to re-do it? Sorry to be so dense, but this is the first drop away I have ever seen in person, much less tried to adjust. Thank you for all the responses.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

yes if the string has been knotted at the cable and cut you will need a new one.l

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Or, and maybe a quicker and simpler solution, you could try shooting cock vane up.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Can't shoot with the cock vane up because then I have problems with the right vane hitting the string that runs from the rest to the cable slide. Is the rest mounted wrong to begin with? The rest is attached via string to the cable slide, not the down cable.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

how is it fastened to the cable slide?

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Don't quote me on this since I don't have it in front of me at the moment, but I think the string is wrapped around one of the "tabs" on the slide. I'll look closely at it tonight so I can be more specific.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

The best advice I can give you is to take the rest off the bow, walk to your kitchen, throw it in the garbage and get a good standard rest.

I had a TTSH on my Liberty and through hours upon hours upon hours of messing with it, I took it off and put on a N.A.P. QuickTune 3000. I had the same problem as you. I adjusted that rest in every single way possible and could never get the fletching contact to go away. I would get it to go away for a little while then it would be back.

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If the justice has the same center shot as the other new for 04 patriots your horizontal adjustment will need to be all the way over if you do not have the extended horizontal bar.

The center shot is real close to 15/16" and the standard horizontal bar will not get you there. Cock up is almost a must with the TT and the I-cam, not sure about the "E" cam though.
One trick they were using at my pro-shop was cock-out. I couldn't see how that was working if cock up wasn't doing the trick. Might want to try it.

From my own experience and from what I've read you will need the string served into the down cable and adjusted to where it's keeping the arrow up every bit of 2.5" of the last part of the draw stroke. Maybe even more.

None of these are absolutes, just some suggestions if nothing else is working.

I lost patience with the TT on my patriot and was able to use a drop zone, which allowed for fletching clearance.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

If your pro shop guy tied the cord around the cable slide then I would highly suggest you find a new pro shop guy.

The rests cord should be served onto the downward moving cable just a little below level with the rest (1 inch) in order to keep the cord from interfearing with your fletching.

DO NOT put the cord through the cable. This can cause premature wear of the cable where the cord runs through it.

You will probably have enough cord left to serve it correctly if it is tied to the cable slide.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

I must disagree with big bulls, trophy taker specifically states to put the launcher cord through the downward moving cable. I have never noticed any cable wear. The launcher cord does not move or slide through the cable enough to cause noticable wear. If you want expert advice call trophy taker, explain your situation and they will coach you through it.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

Okay, double checked this morning and the rest string is mounted in what appears to be a tab just for that purpose on the far side of the cable slide. The string is "capped" with a tiny string nock to keep it from pulling through the tab. Now I am really confused. Is it mounted wrong and I need to change that or will this rest just not work on this bow? Fortunately I still have my dependable GKF as a back up if I can't get this straightened out. I was disappointed in how noisy the rest was this morning too. It was in the mid 20's when I was shooting and I was getting a strong metallic sound from the rest. Anybody else have this problem in cold weather?

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

you need to put some felt or moleskin on your shelf to quiet the thud the launcher arm makes when it makes contact.

first thing to do is put the cord between your bus cable from right to left, if you're right handed, about 3/4 inch below where the cord attaches to rest.

pull the cord tight, where its about to pick up the launcher arm.

draw your bow, let down, pull about 1/8 of an inch more through the bus cable, thus removing 1/8 inch of slack in the cord. this is the most possible amount of rope you will need.

cut the cord

mushroom the end.

tie serving above the cord for about 1/2 inch so the cord can't slip up, it won't try to slip down.

you should be good to go.

check your centershot, horizontal and vertical. you should be 1/8 inch nock high and dead center horizontally. if you're correct horizontally and tie to down bus cable you won't have fletching contact from either of those shooting cock feather up.

you want your drop away rest up as long as possible. just missing fletching as it falls.

you can pull xtra cord through to keep your rest up longer and use a brass nock to secure the rope on the other side of the cable. chalk your vanes. if you get contact with the arm let a little rope back out until you have no contact.

that's just how i would do it.

RE: Help adjusting a Trophy Taker Shakey
 

You either take my advice or not. It really doesn't matter to me. It's your cables.

I didn't say that it would definetly cause premature wear but it certainly can as I have seen it on more than one bow. My own included with a TKO rest served in with the cord inside the cable.

Some cords are fairly coarse and when pulled tight then released the cord moves back and forth inside the cable and rubs the inside of the fibers slowly wearing at them.