Want Gold Tips, but...
 

Here's a tough one for you guys. I'm in the market for new arrows and I want to get Gold Tip's cause they are made in the US, but my problem is I want an arrow around 420gr and GT doesn't make an arrow that heavy for use with my current set up. The reason for 420 is I want good speed, trajectory, SILENCE and penetration and from all the KE caculators i've used this would give me the best all around performance. I only use my bow for hunting. Current set up is a 28" arrow, 100gr broadheads, 65# draw (bow will max @ 70). This puts me at a 5575 pro hunter, but will only get to 381gr according to Gold Tip's arrow builder. The only way I see to get a GT arrow and get my 420gr is to use their 7595 arrows that are much stiffer. How will TOO MUCh spine affect my accuracy and arrow flight? Is this the route I should take or should I look to different arrows. By the way, Eastons are either too $$$ for me or not straight enough and the Carbon Expresses are not made here, but offer a better selection of arrow weights and straightness (Korean Express). What would you do?

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

Doesn't GT have some type of internal weighting thingy? I was thining they did...

As far as too stiff, you'll hear both sides, but in my experience, if you are shooting a release and a center shot bow, too stiff is no problem whatsoever, and in fact can even be better as the arrow quits vibrating quicker.

That's what Bob Ragsdale thinks too... :)

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

Carbon Express makes an arrow weight tube that adds up the 3 grains per inch to your arrows. I think Gold Tip also makes some weight tubes. I have heard of them but could not find them. Gold Tip also has a problem with being underspined. If I were pulling 65 lbs, I would go ahead and buy the 7595 arrows. That way you can put a few more pounds on your bow. I found this out the hard way.

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I shoot 75/95 GT's that are 27" in length. I am shooting them out of a bow set at 70lbs. They fly great and with my 125gr head, they weigh in at 423.

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If you want to stay with the 55/75 spine, go to the GT trads, the ones with the wood grain look, they will give you the weight you want. They are heavier per grain per inch then the blacks and camos. Camos are a little heavier then the blacks.

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Contenderman - Looks like you and I shoot similar setups. I have been using the 55/75 because I wanted the speed of a lighter arrow. Now I realize that speed is not everything and am looking for much the same weight you are looking for. My solution is I am going with the 75/95 in camo hunter pro. At least that is what I want to try now. I do not feel that being "over spined" will be an issue for me much like it is not fo Stonyrvr shooting them at 27".

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Hey wihunter, do ya know anywhere near Kenosha that sells the Gold Tips?

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y'all might think i'm crazy, but you can use weedeater string . cut the string the length of your arrows, that will give you an extra grain per inch.
Or, if you can find them, get the GT series22. they are 10.2 gr per in

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

If you are worried that the 7595 will be too stiff then just go to a 125gr head that will bring the spine back into range and give you a little more weight.

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

I was thinking on the same line as Ausie-Guy. What weight will a 75/95 and 125 gr.
tip be? With my GT's I am shooting now I am shooting 125gr. tips on them. They
seem to group a little better with the heavier tip(for me at least).

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I shoot the 7595 3D Pros cut to 28.5 and fletched with 3 4" feathers. I use 125 grain Stingers. My bow is setup at 65#'s and these arrows fly beautifully. This should be very close to the weight you want and they do pack a PUNCH, especially with those Stingers.

JMAC

PS Forgot to add, I have used the weedeater string too (when I had 5575's), and it works great.

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This is about identical to my setup and they do fly great.

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

Jmac I am glad to hear that your setup works. I will be cutting my to either 28.5 or 29. I am also thinking about the 125 head instead of the 100.

Contenderman I do not know anywhere around here that sells them. I was actually planning on ordering them from eders.com. They have them for $89.50 for the Hunter Pro's in camo. The camo is 9.7 gpi and the black are 8.6 gpi. The black are $79.50. Both prices are for the raw shafts.

Has anyone had problems ordering arrows from eders?

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

ol Bob is finally beginning to listen to me I see:D

RE: Want Gold Tips, but...
 

I think the guys already gave you all the good answers: 7595's are fine for your setup. I now shoot 28.5" 7595's with a 63# bow and they group perfectly with my 100gr WASPs out to 50 yds.

I am shooting the same rig (with fieldpoints) for 3D, but will try some 75 gr tips to get the weight down a bit this weekend. Pushing the FOC, but hopefully she shoots ok....

Cheers,

Greg

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Ive only ordered arrows from eders once. They did a fine job on the arrows I got which
were the Gold Tips. They seem like good people to deal with. JMHO

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Thanks dsheally. That is pretty much what I have heard on other threads. Guess all I need now is the money to get them ordered.

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I shoot the XT hunters in 7595 cut to 29.5 with 3 NAP quickspins and also shoot 125 grain stingers with bow at 70#'s and I have never felt the need to try a different arrow after the GT's. IMHO, great arrow for the money, tough, and they fly/group incredibly well.

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I've had 3 setups shooting 65lbs and I never could get the 5575's to tune worth a ship. The 7595's have been perfect for paper tuning and bare shaft tuning. Same with the Beman ICS's , the 340's shoot much better. I have a 29 1/2" draw and shoot 29" arrows.