I shot the new 2005 Hoyt's tonight.
 

My buddy at my pro shop called me tonight and said the hoyt rep was going to be there with the new 2005's and to come over. I also got to eat some elk chili to boot. I shot the new vipertec, ultratec and the vtec. I liked them all but the vtec stood out. It has roughtly the same specs as the xtec, and those new alpha shock blockers are awesome. The riser has been redesigned for strength, stability, balance and shock absorbtion. It is about 7-10 fps faster than the xtec, and let me tell you it is totally dead in the hand. This bow is sweet. I hope you all get a chance to check them out, and keep an eye on the vtec, because I think it is going to be hot. Bhunter32.

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How does the new funky riser look with the flames and points on it?

RE: I shot the new 2005 Hoyt's tonight.
 

I think the one you are talking about is the turbo tec. Those flames look neat. i don't know if they serve any use or if they are just for appearance. Bhunter32.

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That new bow....what is the axel to axel and brace height on it?

Thanks

RE: I shot the new 2005 Hoyt's tonight.
 

According to their catalog,the Vtec is 5 fps slower(305 fps) than the Xtec(310)


I believe the only bow to actually pick up speed is the Protec.They redesigned the riser so it has a little reflex to it while the grip is still deflex along with making the A-A a 1/2" shorter.


If all goes well,I will be ordering my new Protec tomorrow.:DI plan on getting a pretty one this go round with spirals.[:-]

RE: I shot the new 2005 Hoyt's tonight.
 

The rep said that the vtec is actually faster than the xtec even though the catalog states different. The vtec is 35 1/2 inches ata, with a 7 inch brace. I shot the bows, but I did not shoot them through a chronograph because their were alot of people there shooting them too.. It is one nice bow though and it made an impression on me. Bhunter32.

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I wondered myself how the VTEC would compare to the XTEC in speed and overall shootability. How does the new "standard" grip feel? I only have my doubts about the grip but I guess I could easily order the side plates? Thanks

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Tony Tazza was my local shop the other day and I got to shoot a couple of the new ones. I own an 04 Xtec, and I'll admit I didn't think they could improve that bow, but when I fired that Vtec, I just smiled. It just does not go anywhere when it fires. The new low wrist grip felt great to me, felt like it would be more consistent to grip, but I disliked the new high wrist grip they had on one of the target bows. I will say that the new Sabertec, which is a twin to the Vipertec, except with the "cheaper" glass limbs(still has the machined riser), impressed me also. I was hard pressed to feel any difference between it and my Xtec, or even the Vtec. The Sabertec may be my hunting bow for next year.........but the Vtec will be hard to pass on! In the new 05 catalog, the Vtec is rated at 305 IBO, and the Xtec rated at 300 IBO.
Mikey

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The new pro fit custom grip on the vtec is sweet. I was the same way, I thought it would take a heck of a bow to top the feel of the xtec, but when I shot the vtec I said wow. You kind of say to yourself, did I just shoot this thing, cause it is absolutely dead after the shot. I really like those new alpha shock blockers on these bows too. Simms is making them exclusive for the hoyt bows. I think they play a big part in silencing the bow. The rep said that with the regular split limb savers that if you remove them and don't put them back in the exact same spot that the bow tune can change. Something about stressing the limbs in a different place. The alpha blockers compress in between the limbs so you can put them in the sweet spot that you like best and it won't change nothing. The ones I saw were also in camo, but I'm not sure if they all come that way. I hate when they come out with this stuff, cause I am already planning to put the coin back.LOL. These bow companies are sure rough on a fella. Good luck and keep your eye on these. Aim for the boiler room. Bhunter32.

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Judging by what I have seen so far I think I am going to pick up a Sabertec to try out. The specs are more inline with what I typically like shooting. Glad to see it is offered in at least a 31 inch draw length. ;)

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I got the new 05 catalog today and they took the Xtec down to 300 fps but apparently didn't change the bow .Looks like they are phasing the Xtec out for the Vtec.

Waiting on the rep next week to get my bow ordered.:D

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I was very hopeful that Hoyt would come out with something above and beyond what they have. But, in my case, I'm disapointed. I haven't shot any of the bows, so it may be too early to comment, but based off the specs on the new ones, nothing in there would propel me to buy one this year. I currently shoot an Xtec. The Vtec has very, very similar specs so I see no need to replace the X with this one.

If I were to buy another, as it looks, it would probably be a new Bowtech to try out. They seem to be offering up fresh ideas this year. I am a Hoyt shooter and I personally feel they make the best quality product of the "big 3", but they really need to start looking forward instead of rehashing the same idea's, just slightly different specs each year.

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Yeah Frank,
when I saw the specs on that I wondered if you were going to pick one up. So far that is the most interesting offering out there, for a pure treestand hunting bow.

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I'm disappointed myself, nothing exciting at all. Basically the same line-up, with some cosmetic changes (which are getting very mixed reviews, especially the P-tec and T-tec).

Why bother keeping the X-Tec? Now you have a very slightly lower price point bow w/ virtually identical specs competing with the 2005 flagship V-tec..not smart at all IMO...I suspect they just had a ton of risers left.

And a price hike to boot.

Good to see they put more realistic IBO speeds down. The new safari color option is cool, and the new grip should be an improvement. Lotta folks think the 2003-2004 grip is too small, myself included, and I have fairly small hands.

Hoyt rep is in this week, and I'll be shooting them... and I'm sure they will shoot awesome, but unless the new bows have a lot less recoil out of the box, meh...Hoyt dropped the ball this year AFAIC.

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I totally agree Jeff. Hopefully they are just filling in the gaps this year and coming up with something big next year. Nothing in that lineup impresses me. I'll stick with my Xtec as its shooting extremely well for me right now....unless Mr. Bowtech comes calling.:D

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I really don't know why they needed to change much.They addressed the two issues they had with the Protec and completely redesigned it.First issue was it didn't have the Triax pockets and the second was the balance of the reflex riser wasn't as nice as the reflex of the Ultra.The reflexed parts of the Pro to give it balance and added triax pockets.This should be one of,if not the most shootable bow available right now.Oh yeah,it's faster .


I'll let you know how it shoots in about a month.:D


The Ultratec has already proven itself and as far as the speeds are concerned,I really think the numbers they gave on the Xtec and Ultra were right on last year.It seems that the 05's that are being tested are going above their advertised speeds so I would say they are just being conservative and most will be pleasently surprised.

RE: I shot the new 2005 Hoyt's tonight.
 

TFOX,

They didn't "need" to change much is probably correct. The only real issue I still have with them is more recoil than parallel limb bows..however, I do believe they didn't change enough for their own good. The Pro-Tec def needed the new tri-ax and the speed bump was good too. However the V-tec/X-tec similarity IMO is a bad move. 5 more FPS and a full grip for a higher price. Nothing there will bump the guy who's happy with his X-tec (the shops best seller by far) into a V-tec. Same with the Ultra shooters. (second best seller). At least 90% of the local guys who bought a Super-tec don't really like them anyways, so I think the T-Tec was also a bad idea. Same specs same speed, arguably goofy riser..more $.

And the same piss poor strings. That's a BIG issue, especially with another price hike. Our shop does a ton of business with W/C thanx to Hoyt, PSE, and Zebra. For the $ high end bows cost these days they really need to come out with better quality strings and cables. They are quiet and durable, but creep and peep twist is abysmal.


I'd like to hear because I preferred my Accu-Tec II over the Pro-Tec by quite a large margin.


Hmm....From what I've seen only the Spiral cam Ultra's lived up. The X-Tecs, Viper-Tecs and Ultra C.5 tended to run about 5-7 FPS under advertised 2004 specs.

I hope thats the case. I'll find out this week :D I KNOW they will shoot great, I just think they left the door open for others to kick them in the ass.

BTW, just thinking out loud, don't want to sound argumentative :)

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First off let me say I totally agree with the strings from a competition stand point but I am having "good" results with my stock strings on my Xtec.Not great but good.It isn't a matter of material but rather thyy are built is the problem.D-75 is a great material but has to be put together right.Serving is the key.


My 03 Ultra and my 04 X shoot almost identical speeds.At 28 1/2 draw, I am getting 270 fps at 56#'s with 324 gr arrows.Not too bad.

I have already seen some one post they were getting 308 fps with the new 05 Ultra at 29 1/2".



I had one of the first Protecs and loved the bow but balance was an issue.Hope this new one lives up to the billing.


I tend to agree with you that they probably had a bunch of leftover Xtec risers and were needing to phase them out so they bump the price of the Vtec and when the X's are gone,they will be done.


I tend to think they are trying to get people to step up to the Pro so they can see for themselves the difference a deflex riser makes.;)



I agree that parallel limb bows shoot smoother,they almost have too(because of the design).My problem with them is the drastic reflex of most of them.They need the reflex to get speed and/or a harsh draw force curve,both of which I personally hate.They give them 8" brace and then put 2" reflex on them,offsetting the brace.I am anxious to see and feel the new cam design Bowtech has.The Constitution with the Equalizer cam system looks promising but what are they going to do if there is cam lean.:eek: