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stevensondrive 08-16-2004 12:47 PM

Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
with my new Outback the guys recommended the Crimson Talon's. Has anybody had any experience with them?? They look brutal!! :D

Steve

Todd1700 08-16-2004 01:02 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
From what I hear they fly good but the blades are flimsy and easily damaged even from just shooting foam targets. I have heard a lot of bad reports. I won't ever be using them. I think they are designed to LOOK WICKED and thats about it.

Pinwheel 12 08-16-2004 06:39 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
This years' Talons have a much harder Rockwell on the blades over last years' model, and they actually hold up quite well now and do not flex much at all. They also bore one heckova hole thru critters (or anything else), can't miss the bloodtrail!

They do shoot lower than a comparative straight blade broadhead , but they are definately far improved over the first generation. Those new Raptor mechanicals are especially wicked! Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

BIGPA 08-16-2004 07:39 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
what about the grim reaper? has anyone used them?
oh by the way I finely got to login. its been a long time since I could.
its real nice to be back!!!!!!!!!

Mike from Texas 08-17-2004 05:00 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 

Those new Raptor mechanicals are especially wicked! Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
I'm glad to hear that. I just bought a pack of them. I couldn't wait any longer for 5 shot to do a test on them. I hope I'm not disappointed.

razortec 08-17-2004 06:18 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
i don't like them at all they said you you don't have to tune them but that
is not true like any other broad head but they don't fly like field points.

Lifehog 08-17-2004 08:58 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
I used them last year and i loved them i had no problem with the blades.
And i cant wait to use them this year again.
Good luck

stevensondrive 08-20-2004 12:13 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
I talked to the pro shop on the phone. He is still very pro CT. I asked him about the G5, "doesn't leave a very good blood trail, the holes have a tendacy to close back up." He also said the reason the CT get broken is because people don't read the directions. You are supposed to pull the arrow all the way through (huh?). He said he has never broken a blade.

Just something to add to the debate....

Steve

Pinwheel 12 08-20-2004 01:24 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
I just tried out a pack of the 100 Raptors the other day again---shot arrows into a Blueridge 2" thick 4 lb ethafoam target (last years) with two layers of 1/2" spongy foam covering it (extra slowing power so it doesn't pass completely through) and busted a mechanical blade on the very first shot. Just foam, nothing else in the target! Went and grabbed another new one, and it lasted six shots before breaking a blade. They fly good, but I didn't see anything so great that it is going to turn me away from the Wasps I currently shoot. I will try the "regular" Talons with the new rockwell later on this weekend. JMHO. Pinwheel 12

stevensondrive 08-20-2004 02:25 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
let us know how the Talons do on your test

Steve

Antler Eater 08-20-2004 03:15 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 

I asked him about the G5, "doesn't leave a very good blood trail, the holes have a tendacy to close back up."
What is that dude smokin???!!! I can't comment on the Crimson Talons, I have never used them, but I have killed a number if nice animals with the G5 and I can unequivocally say the wounds do not "close back up". Further, the blood trails were just fine.

Bullet Bob 08-20-2004 03:45 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
I bought some last year to try i.e., last years models, and they didn't fly any better then anyother broadhead of that size, just cost more.

bowhuntinoh 08-20-2004 11:18 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
[8D] i was just fooling around in the back yard last spring i decided to test a couple crimson talons on my tough bag i put a 1/8 inch board behind it i know broad heads penitrate my bag it went thru the bag and the board i fired all 3 they all came out the back none broke i had to push the arrow all the way thru to get them out

bowhuntinoh 08-25-2004 07:49 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
[8D] i was practacing over the week end the talons fly really good but you have to push them all the way thru the target or they brake the foam targets at wall mart work good for this and they do stop broad heads

stevensondrive 08-26-2004 07:06 AM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
thanks for your feedback!!

Len in Maryland 08-26-2004 07:34 AM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
Kevin:

They do shoot lower than a comparative straight blade broadhead
Why???? This statement 'does not compute' unless you're telling me that this BH, due to it's frontal drag, causes the arrow to slow down quite a bit.

'Inquiring minds want to know'.;)

Pinwheel 12 08-27-2004 05:54 AM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
Len-

Yep, I believe it is due to the "frontal spin" which creates differing spine stress and thus performs that much differently than an identical setup that is shooting comparable "normal" BH's of the same general length and weight. I did not "re-tune" to the specific Talon BH, so that also may certainly have some affect on actual point of impact heights, but when simply swapped around, they impact lower.

Len in Maryland 08-27-2004 06:42 AM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
Kevin:

The problem that I saw when I first examined these BHs was differing loads created by 'bends' that were not uniform. This could create differing "spine stress", and due to inconsistent spine problems with many carbon arrows, could also create erratic flight problems in general.

They told me that they had instituted better quality control on the blades. The question is, 'did they or didn't they'?

I guess I'll have to throw some on my bow to see what happens.:D I've got 4 different BHs in my quiver right now that I'm testing.;)

NickSnook 09-08-2004 09:14 PM

RE: Broadhead: Crimson Talon
 
I have video of a Pronghorn Kill using the Talon .
Bill Snodgrass on Hunts to Remember on the Sportsman Channel was using the Talon along with my TURBOS on Hunts last year.

They do a really mean job of cutting. The Pronghorn went down in seven seconds. I did notice that the blades did not hold up very well, but I guess you have to weigh the damage the blade does vs its durability.

It is one of the few fixed blade broadheads that works with our Deadx model nock , because it has the basic same pitch in the broadhead blades as the vanes in the nock. and the two products compliment each other.



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