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Wiccrman13 07-29-2004 01:30 PM

50 yards!
 
Well I still have a lot of work to do at under 40 yards,But I'm dead on at 50 to 55 yards.lol,does that make any sense?

I find it to be very funny seeing that I'm near sighted,And I'm shooting better at longer rang than at short rang,lol,I think I must be a little strange...:eek:

c903 07-29-2004 04:51 PM

RE: 50 yards!
 
Just don't shoot at anything that is less than 50-55 yards away.

JoshKeller 07-29-2004 09:32 PM

RE: 50 yards!
 
Seems to me like maybe your concentrating more at the longer distances, and treating the shorter shots like they are chip shots.. Sorta like the Lakers did to the Pistons this year. :D

Shootem up870 07-29-2004 10:33 PM

RE: 50 yards!
 
i think josh keller may be right. now all you have to do is adjust top to bottom since you already got left and right down. good luck

CBM SC 07-30-2004 05:45 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 
Maybe it's a tuning issue..........and it takes 40 yrds for your arrow to stabilize !! :D

jsasker 07-30-2004 05:58 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 
CBM has got it pegged,it must be a tuning issue where it takes a greater distance for the fletching to steer the arrow straight.

BobCo19-65 07-30-2004 07:16 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 

Seems to me like maybe your concentrating more at the longer distances,
I think Josh has it pegged. I've been there and done the same thing before.

kevin1 07-30-2004 08:07 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 
Is a pass through likely at that distance with your set up ?

BobCo19-65 07-30-2004 08:58 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 
I wouldn't shoot that far on game. One step by an animal between the point of no return on the release by the time the arrow got there would be the difference between a kill and a wound.

dwaasp 07-31-2004 11:20 AM

RE: 50 yards!
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

I wouldn't shoot that far on game. One step by an animal between the point of no return on the release by the time the arrow got there would be the difference between a kill and a wound.
Wounding may depend on speed:

Holt seams to say in his book & research that when an arrow reaches the kill in less than ½ sec. He has not known one to jump the string. So that may require more than 300 fps..

shishkabob 07-31-2004 12:40 PM

RE: 50 yards!
 
try to concentrate on the shot for at least 6 seconds, always pick a spot even at short distances. maybe try a helical fletching if your not already.different spine,perhaps?

PLB 07-31-2004 06:46 PM

RE: 50 yards!
 
With you being near sighted, you might just be staring at the target and not the pin. With the far targets, you can't see them clearly anyhow so you are probalby concentrating on the pin as you should be.

Just a thought.

Wiccrman13 07-31-2004 08:08 PM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 
I thought it might have something to do with my sight,

I can see the main outline of the kill zone on the target.But I can't see the inside areas,So I just try to put the pin in the center of the kill zone between the outlines,So I guess I am concentrating more on the smaller target.

So you may very well be right on this one,Even though I still need lots of work,Practice practice practice,I love the bow,It just feel more natural to me than a rifle,I don't know why,Well then again,I have always been drawn to the ancient weapons more than modern ones,I mean one of my favorite things to collect and train with are swords,And I guess maybe a bow is in a lot of ways still one of those weapons,Just updated for a more powerful modern style.Could be why it feels so natural to me...

BobCo19-65 08-02-2004 09:32 AM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 

quote:

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

I wouldn't shoot that far on game. One step by an animal between the point of no return on the release by the time the arrow got there would be the difference between a kill and a wound.


Wounding may depend on speed:

Really??? Lets take a look at that,

An animal traveling at 2mph (slow), can travel 3 feet in 1 second. An arrow travels 50 yards at a speed 300 fps (constant, no loss of speed), can get there in 1/2 second. So, if an animal decides to take a step between the time you release and the time the arrow gets there, it could be 1 1/2 feet off.

dwaasp 08-02-2004 10:03 AM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65


quote:

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

I wouldn't shoot that far on game. One step by an animal between the point of no return on the release by the time the arrow got there would be the difference between a kill and a wound.


Wounding may depend on speed:

Really??? Lets take a look at that,

An animal traveling at 2mph (slow), can travel 3 feet in 1 second. An arrow travels 50 yards at a speed 300 fps (constant, no loss of speed), can get there in 1/2 second. So, if an animal decides to take a step between the time you release and the time the arrow gets there, it could be 1 1/2 feet off.
All will be time & what the kill may may be doing: but jumping the string also requires time for the noise to get to the kill and then the muscle flex. And one should always lead a moving animal.

BobCo19-65 08-02-2004 10:05 AM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 

All will be time & what the kill may may be doing: but jumping the string also requires time for the noise to get to the kill and then the muscle flex.
I guess we are talking two different things. I wasn't really reffering to string jumping. But rather unexpected things that happen beyond the hunters control which can be magnified at longer ranges.

Wiccrman13 08-02-2004 01:25 PM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 
I will say this much,

I have seen my father shoot at a deer with his crossbow,340 per second,And I saw the deer jump the arrow,I have also seen one duck an arrow,

And Last season I saw one duck a round from a 45,So I know that they can do this,

My point was,I don't release my arrow until I'm on target.I just won't do it,Now I may shift,Or my sights maybe a bit off,That I don't know,But I don't take an ify shot,Just not my thing.

dwaasp 08-02-2004 09:58 PM

RE: 50 yards!Could be.
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65


All will be time & what the kill may may be doing: but jumping the string also requires time for the noise to get to the kill and then the muscle flex.
I guess we are talking two different things. I wasn't really reffering to string jumping. But rather unexpected things that happen beyond the hunters control which can be magnified at longer ranges.
Most concur a standing shot and the more near the game the better: but in some open area (deserts & etc.) one may need to shoot @ 40+ yds or forget the sport in total. That may be why some, such a Holt, may have suggested a time as well as a distance aspect.


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