Who makes the best feeling release trigger
07-13-2004, 12:33 PM
#21
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fargo ND USA
Posts: 124
RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
Sorry Rangeball, I've been gone for awhile and didn't see your question until now.
At any rate, the Scott's IMO are ok, but they still have some travel unless you really lighten up on the trigger, and that just encourages TP. With the 2 shot you can set it so that you can put a little pressure on it before it breaks, and you get NO travel. None.
Also, just saw your last post. Did you try slipping a spring from a ball point pen over the trigger on your Scott and see how you like it? Might be worth a try.
Rod
At any rate, the Scott's IMO are ok, but they still have some travel unless you really lighten up on the trigger, and that just encourages TP. With the 2 shot you can set it so that you can put a little pressure on it before it breaks, and you get NO travel. None.
Also, just saw your last post. Did you try slipping a spring from a ball point pen over the trigger on your Scott and see how you like it? Might be worth a try.
Rod
07-13-2004, 02:56 PM
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dover, PA USA
Posts: 5,497
RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
I shot a Carter "One Shot" last season and abandonded it completely.........It is a release, as is the 2 shot that is meant to perform at it's best with a beck tension surprise shot. Actually ANY release will work best when fired this way.......If I was a strict 3D or target archer and had to shoot an index fired release then the Carters would be my choice hands down.
HOWEVER.......in hunting you aren't always able to use target range form, you have weird angles, fast shots and MANY MANY times we are punching the trigger. I don't care who you are or what you say, the majority of the time shooting at game we punch the trigger. It may be controlled and accurate but we seldom have the time to say "Breath, keep back tension, pull through the shot.....POW!" and the release surprises you. That's not real world.
That's where the Carter was a problem for me. The trigger is heavy and has no travel. This does not equate to good "On Demand" shooting, I found (And I practiced this) tha when I deliberately fired the release by pressing the trigger I was all sorts of wild. When something doesn't give under reasonable force in a stressful situation the instinct is to PUSH HARDER and faster.
I knew I wasn't going to be able to shoot controlled back tension in most hunting situations so I tried shooting it by simply "Pulling the Trigger" and it SUCKED for me.
I scrapped it and went back to my tried and true Scott "Rhino" with its simple peg trigger, a little travel and a softer more hair feeling trigger. I KNOW when this release will fire, and it's more forgiving trigger response helps to keep me much more on target even under the worst of trigger mashings.
I can stand at 20 yards and shoot one shot back tension, the next a slow pull, and the next just SLAM the trigger and will stack all 3 arrows. I simply couldn't do that with the Carter.
HOWEVER.......in hunting you aren't always able to use target range form, you have weird angles, fast shots and MANY MANY times we are punching the trigger. I don't care who you are or what you say, the majority of the time shooting at game we punch the trigger. It may be controlled and accurate but we seldom have the time to say "Breath, keep back tension, pull through the shot.....POW!" and the release surprises you. That's not real world.
That's where the Carter was a problem for me. The trigger is heavy and has no travel. This does not equate to good "On Demand" shooting, I found (And I practiced this) tha when I deliberately fired the release by pressing the trigger I was all sorts of wild. When something doesn't give under reasonable force in a stressful situation the instinct is to PUSH HARDER and faster.
I knew I wasn't going to be able to shoot controlled back tension in most hunting situations so I tried shooting it by simply "Pulling the Trigger" and it SUCKED for me.
I scrapped it and went back to my tried and true Scott "Rhino" with its simple peg trigger, a little travel and a softer more hair feeling trigger. I KNOW when this release will fire, and it's more forgiving trigger response helps to keep me much more on target even under the worst of trigger mashings.
I can stand at 20 yards and shoot one shot back tension, the next a slow pull, and the next just SLAM the trigger and will stack all 3 arrows. I simply couldn't do that with the Carter.
07-14-2004, 05:25 PM
#24
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CT, USA
Posts: 3,058
RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
I shot a Carter "One Shot" last season and abandonded it completely.........It is a release, as is the 2 shot that is meant to perform at it's best with a beck tension surprise shot. Actually ANY release will work best when fired this way.......If I was a strict 3D or target archer and had to shoot an index fired release then the Carters would be my choice hands down.
HOWEVER.......in hunting you aren't always able to use target range form, you have weird angles, fast shots and MANY MANY times we are punching the trigger. I don't care who you are or what you say, the majority of the time shooting at game we punch the trigger. It may be controlled and accurate but we seldom have the time to say "Breath, keep back tension, pull through the shot.....POW!" and the release surprises you. That's not real world.
That's where the Carter was a problem for me. The trigger is heavy and has no travel. This does not equate to good "On Demand" shooting, I found (And I practiced this) tha when I deliberately fired the release by pressing the trigger I was all sorts of wild. When something doesn't give under reasonable force in a stressful situation the instinct is to PUSH HARDER and faster.
I knew I wasn't going to be able to shoot controlled back tension in most hunting situations so I tried shooting it by simply "Pulling the Trigger" and it SUCKED for me.
I scrapped it and went back to my tried and true Scott "Rhino" with its simple peg trigger, a little travel and a softer more hair feeling trigger. I KNOW when this release will fire, and it's more forgiving trigger response helps to keep me much more on target even under the worst of trigger mashings.
I can stand at 20 yards and shoot one shot back tension, the next a slow pull, and the next just SLAM the trigger and will stack all 3 arrows. I simply couldn't do that with the Carter.
I shot a Carter "One Shot" last season and abandonded it completely.........It is a release, as is the 2 shot that is meant to perform at it's best with a beck tension surprise shot. Actually ANY release will work best when fired this way.......If I was a strict 3D or target archer and had to shoot an index fired release then the Carters would be my choice hands down.
HOWEVER.......in hunting you aren't always able to use target range form, you have weird angles, fast shots and MANY MANY times we are punching the trigger. I don't care who you are or what you say, the majority of the time shooting at game we punch the trigger. It may be controlled and accurate but we seldom have the time to say "Breath, keep back tension, pull through the shot.....POW!" and the release surprises you. That's not real world.
That's where the Carter was a problem for me. The trigger is heavy and has no travel. This does not equate to good "On Demand" shooting, I found (And I practiced this) tha when I deliberately fired the release by pressing the trigger I was all sorts of wild. When something doesn't give under reasonable force in a stressful situation the instinct is to PUSH HARDER and faster.
I knew I wasn't going to be able to shoot controlled back tension in most hunting situations so I tried shooting it by simply "Pulling the Trigger" and it SUCKED for me.
I scrapped it and went back to my tried and true Scott "Rhino" with its simple peg trigger, a little travel and a softer more hair feeling trigger. I KNOW when this release will fire, and it's more forgiving trigger response helps to keep me much more on target even under the worst of trigger mashings.
I can stand at 20 yards and shoot one shot back tension, the next a slow pull, and the next just SLAM the trigger and will stack all 3 arrows. I simply couldn't do that with the Carter.
However the question was which release had the best feeling trigger, and AFAIC there no doubt the 2 shot does as far as index finger releases go. SUPA-crisp...like KFC...or all those burnouts you knew in High-School
07-14-2004, 09:02 PM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Arlington TX USA
Posts: 2,214
RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
ORIGINAL: Jeepnut
Range,
Ever try the spring trigger post that Scott offers? No experience with them personally, though I've seen them in use. I just wonder if it would allow your finger to travel further before release making it feel more like it had a longer trigger travel?
Range,
Ever try the spring trigger post that Scott offers? No experience with them personally, though I've seen them in use. I just wonder if it would allow your finger to travel further before release making it feel more like it had a longer trigger travel?
Also, I've been shooting a Winn Free Flight for years and thought it was a great release until I got my Scott. I wonder if the new head Winn designed for string loops would be any better? If I could just figure out how to put a Scott head on the Winn Glove, I think that would be the perfect hunting release.
07-15-2004, 08:18 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
Mike, a few questions-
1- Did you have to buy a whole new release, or coud you just purchase the spring trigger and retrofit an existing release?
2- Forsee/have any problems using it while hunting?
1- Did you have to buy a whole new release, or coud you just purchase the spring trigger and retrofit an existing release?
2- Forsee/have any problems using it while hunting?
07-15-2004, 05:56 PM
#27
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Arlington TX USA
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RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
Range,
You can buy just the trigger post HERE. All you have to do is get a small pair of pliers and unscrew your regular trigger post and screw in the new one. I'd recommend a small dab of blue loctite.
I haven't had a chance to hunt with it since I just got it a couple of months ago but I can't forsee any problems with it in a hunting situation. It is just a smidge slower to react if you punch the trigger but we're talking milliseconds here. I guess this is why it may be a little more forgiving in those times when you may punch the trigger. For as little as it costs, it's worth trying out to see if you like it. Certainly a lot cheaper than another new release.
You can buy just the trigger post HERE. All you have to do is get a small pair of pliers and unscrew your regular trigger post and screw in the new one. I'd recommend a small dab of blue loctite.
I haven't had a chance to hunt with it since I just got it a couple of months ago but I can't forsee any problems with it in a hunting situation. It is just a smidge slower to react if you punch the trigger but we're talking milliseconds here. I guess this is why it may be a little more forgiving in those times when you may punch the trigger. For as little as it costs, it's worth trying out to see if you like it. Certainly a lot cheaper than another new release.
07-17-2004, 08:32 AM
#30
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Who makes the best feeling release trigger
For as little as it costs, it's worth trying out to see if you like it. Certainly a lot cheaper than another new release.
Amen to that. Thanks for speaking my language...
