Hard Shooting Bow
 

Hey i have been looking for a bow that is very fast and hard shooting i want it to be a 70 to 80 lb model and something that will be good for very big game. i know the bowtechs fit this catagory and i see their fastest is the black night but it only goes to 70 lbs. i might look into a vft sampson i believe it is offered in higher draw weights thanks guys

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What do you plan to hunt.....Grizzly......Bison......Polar Bear......?

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Well i go on a bunch of different hunts but i do hunt buffulo as well as brown bears, moose ect and a bunch of other really big game i have been to africa a couple of times and would like to hunt dangerous game this next time
so as you can see i would like to get a bow that can pack some heat behind it

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Does the '04 BT Pat, DC or SC come in 80#.

That'd do about anything you want it to, I imagine.

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I really don`t understand? with todays bows, and speed that there producing why would you want to shoot an 80lb bow when you can shoot 70lb bow and getting great K.E even if your going after game that you speak of? If you go to a heaver " arrow" with a good cut on contact broadhead? But then again i never went after cap buffulo:D or a charging rino!:D

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But see what im saying is that if i can shoot 80 lbs accurately than shouldnt i , 10 more lbs helps quite a bit when your shooting big dangerous game. then i can still shoot a heavier arrow and a cut on contact and get even more penetration

anyway im not looking for someone to tell me how i should shoot 70 lbs i was just inquring about some hard shooting bows and if that bow only comes in 70 lbs and still out performs an 80 lb model then by all means tell me but i just want the hardest shooting bow out there. dont get me wrong im not being like a know it all but i just want the best equipment i can get and handle
thanks

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The Patriot goes to 80lb

The samson goes to 100 lbs.

Either of these would be killer. I would opt for the 80lb Patriot.

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have you shot the patriot and the sampson how do they compare? any input would be appreciated thanks

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I shoot the Patriot as my hunting bow and have shot an 80lb Samson.

The 04 Patriot has the new better balanced riser, the Samson has the same 03 riser. I like the little larger brace for the Pat. The Pat is about 5fps slower.

Other wise they shoot very similar. Both are great bows IMO.

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thanks a lot sounds like your pretty familiar with the bowtechs anyway i will definatly go shoot those thanks

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Much depends on your draw length also when figuring out how much energy you'll develope. I test shot a 70 pound BlackKnight with a 30 inch draw and it shot a 452 grain arrow 320 fps for 102.80 foot pounds of K.E. Is that enough?

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Mercy...

Hide the women and children...

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According to Bowtech's websitewww.bowtecharchery.com The Samson VFT comes in 80,90, or 100 pound draw weights and has the same Specs as the Extreme VFT. Should be one of the hardest shooting bows out there. The only problem with these bows are out of the 2 Bowtech dealers in my area neither one carry's them and you have to special order them without shooting them.

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Considering that my '03 Pat Dually shoots just as fast at 62# as my old PSE Carroll Intruder did at 82#... I'd say that the heavier weights are pretty much over kill now a days. I bet if you contacted Bowtech.. they could make any of their bows in an 80# model for you... just a matter of throwing on a different set of limbs.

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Pse makes the Gorilla bow up to 100 lbs..Also high country has aheavy bow as well

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Bowtech Extreme VFT Samson, PSE Gorilla, and the Mathews Safari would be the the types of bows your looking for!

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actually quite a few companies offer bows with 80 lb limbs. I think bowtech offers more than just the samson. The samson is 80 and up, but I think they have a few that top out at 80. I have seen some other popular brands with the same options, just can't think of them at the moment. I will look later maybe.

Paul

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Bowtech, hoyt, browning, forge, PSE, and renegade all offer at least one bow with an 80 lb option. Bowtech and hoyt offer more than a few. So if you want to draw that much weight, they are out there for you to try. It may be hard to shoot one that way though. I doubt pro shops order many bows with that kind of draw weight. You would most likely have to shoot one at 70 lbs, then order one with the heavier limbs on it when you buy it.

Paul

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I know lots of guys who can draw 80 lbs easier than I can draw 60, and I can draw 60 very easily. There are some out there who are hunting whitetails with 60 and 70 lb bows and a grizzly must be about 5 times larger. I know if I was hunting brown bears, I'd be using the heaviest draw I could handle without problems and the heaviest arrow I could put together. By all means, if you can easily draw it, then get the heavier draw weight bow.

I doubt many shops stock the hevier draw weights, so you'll have to trust the brand or try shooting the equivalent 70 lb model.