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oniedaeagle 06-27-2004 07:53 AM

tuning help
 
i just bought a hoyt razortec and was paper tuning it from 3 foot to ten yards it puts bullet holes when shoot outside from 20 yards to 40 you can see the arrow croke screw what can be wrong??? here is my set up hoyt razortec 29 inch draw 28 inch 2315 arrow 70 pound draw and nap dropaway 2000

oniedaeagle 06-27-2004 07:53 AM

RE: tuning help
 
and the center shot right now is 5/8 to 10/16 inch and nock point set 1/16 inch high

buckeye 06-27-2004 08:50 AM

RE: tuning help
 
Are you shooting a damaged or bent aluminum arrows for your tests?

How about you draw length modules are they both set the same?

What point weight are you shooting also vanes or feathers?

oniedaeagle 06-27-2004 10:26 AM

RE: tuning help
 
arrow are perfect the cam draw length setting are the same 100 grain tip and shooting vanes

CBM SC 06-27-2004 11:53 AM

RE: tuning help
 
I don't know about a cam.5 ..............but if it were a single cam I'd check for idler wheel/cam lean !! It may just need one side of the yoke twisted !!

May be worth a look anyway !!

oniedaeagle 06-27-2004 02:39 PM

RE: tuning help
 
i think i have found the problem after paper tuning it at 1-10 yards i decided it has to be my form so i went back to 20 yard set the paper up and after 20 shot 10 were bullet hole i have been shooting real hard for the last two day.. and i think iam pullin the bow beacuse the paper tears were not all one way. has anybody else had this problem

Arthur P 06-28-2004 06:25 AM

RE: tuning help
 
I'd suggest switching to 125 gn points. That's the easy part. Then, the more difficult part... Learn to keep your bowhand relaxed during the release. Sounds like you're most likely grabbing the bow's handle when you shoot.

And fer Pete's sake! rest up for a day or two before shooting again!;)

Bigpapascout 06-28-2004 10:48 AM

RE: tuning help
 
IMO paper testing farther than 6 frrt away is uselesseven an mproperly tuned bow will shoot a bullet hole thru paper at 10yards because the arrow has had time to stabelize and streighten out.
if you can get a good hole at 6 feet the bow is tuned for center shot and vertical alignment.
make sure the rest is coming up at the last inch before full draw , because the quicker the rest raises the later it will fall and cause fletch contact this si especially critical with shorter DL.
you also mentioned you are torquing the bow. you will never get a good hole thru paper by gripping your bow.

changing point weight is only a short cut to fix the real underlaying problem If your bow is well tuned it will shoot a good hole regardless of the point weight provided the spine is stiff enough

one other thig if you are shooting all white fletching it will give the appearance of an oscillating arrow (fish taioing)

that is about all the info I can give you without actually seeing the paper tear shot from 6 feet away.

BobCo19-65 06-28-2004 10:57 AM

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IMO paper testing farther than 6 frrt away is uselesseven an mproperly tuned bow will shoot a bullet hole thru paper at 10yards because the arrow has had time to stabelize and streighten out.
I agree. Paper tuning will only show you if the arrow is coming off the bow straight.

ijimmy 06-28-2004 01:00 PM

RE: tuning help
 
study this for awhile

http://www.eastonarchery.com/downloa...ning_guide.zip

then maybe try "bare shaft tuneing" , for myself I get better results with that method , allthough I used to swear against it , it seems to work for me now . Start close if you try it 5yards or so and then work your way back . If you are useing lite alluminum arrows you may wreck some .

oniedaeagle 06-28-2004 09:26 PM

RE: tuning help
 
i can get good bullet hole for 6 foot but the farther i get out the worst they get

JeffB 06-29-2004 06:14 AM

RE: tuning help
 
Try a different rest.

Seriously.

NAP 2000s IME are more trouble than they are worth. The 4000 works much better.

Also check your arrows. Make sure they are not bent. Make sure that none of the fletchings are loose. What is your FOC? What kind of fletching and length do you have? How heavy are your points?

oniedaeagle 06-29-2004 05:28 PM

RE: tuning help
 
tuning problem solved after 3 day of off on tuning i finally got it i read the easton tuning guide then i read the hoyt owner manual i put the rest so the nock was at 90 and then i keep getting up down tear in paper so i move the est in a bit and bingo.. why simple problems so hard[&:] bye the way i took it to the pro shop they were close but they had the nocking point 1/16th to high and the rest a little to far out..thank for all the help.also the whisker bisquit problem noise is gone


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