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Wolf killer 04-14-2004 10:58 AM

How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
Alright guys I am not bashing the Wisket Bisket. I just want to know how many f.p.s. on average I am loosing with my wisker bisket? What rest will optimize my f.p.s.? I really do like my w.b. I am just wondering what I would gain if I swithched rests?

buckeye 04-14-2004 11:05 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
On the bow I shot last year I used a WB for hunting. Through my chronograph I lost 3 fps compaired to a prong style rest. I no longer have the bow or the WB to test the WB against a drop away though.

mobow 04-14-2004 11:09 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
I personally don't shoot the whisker biscuit, but of the guys I know that do, the average loss is around 5-8 fps.

Rangeball 04-14-2004 11:13 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
If you like the hunting features of the biscuit but want to maximize fps, try-

1- Making sure you have the correctly sized biscuit for your arrow.

2- Trim the backside of the biscuit.

3- Use less helical/offset vanes/feathers.

4- Buy an '04 replacement biscuit, the one with brown/black biscuits.

Many have reported being able to eliminate almost all fps loss and still retain the desireable qualities of the biscuit. No reason you can't too.

ijimmy 04-14-2004 11:23 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
I would say it depends weather you are useing vanes or feathers , but with either one its not very much , about half the diferance of getting rid of a peep site setup with a rubber band attached .

DaveC 04-14-2004 11:29 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
Non-new bisquit trimmed on back side= 2-3 fps straight fletched vanes, 5 fps helical vanes. I can only imagine offset vanes would be somewhere in the middle.

6ptsika 04-14-2004 11:36 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
Using the 2004 B2 biscuit, in aluminum size, with GT5575's, I lost 1 fps. That's with 4" offset vanes.
There's no need to trim the 04 models with the brown bristles.

Wolf killer 04-14-2004 11:50 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
Thaks for some quick answers. Here is my bow setup:
Darton Typhoon.
29.5" draw.
70-pounds.
Easton Axis 340 arrows 26.5" @ 9.5gpi. 4" vanes with 0-offset.
Ultra Limb Savers.
Peep with rubber tube.
String leaches.
String loop, without a brass nock on the string.

What can I do to maximize my f.p.s. and still have a quiet bow to shoot? This is a hunting bow. If I am only loosing 3 to 5 f.p.s second with the W.B. I will keep it? I feel the W.B. could offer a slight advantge in some hunting situations that would out weigh the 3 to 5 f.p.s. lost.

Rangeball 04-14-2004 12:45 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
Ditch the peep and rubber tube and pick up 8-15 fps quick and easy. Slap a No-peep on and you're good to go.

I suspect with straight fletch, if you're biscuit is properly sized and broken in, you are losing minimal fps. You may wish to consider fletching with the new NAP spin vanes if you have any broadhead flight/control issues.

PABowhntr 04-14-2004 12:46 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
I think that considering your choice and configuration of fletch and with the new whisker biscuit design you should loose less than 5 fps...probably closer to 2-3 fps. If that is acceptable to you then I say go with it. I cannot imagine that you would lose more with your current setup.

Carwi 04-14-2004 06:21 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
I went from a WB with the brown/black bristles to a NAP 2000RG drop-away and gained 8 fps. I was using helical feathers on my arrows. I had good accuracy with the WB but much better with a drop-away. I mainly changed due to the wear I was getting with my feathers.

5 shot 04-14-2004 06:54 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
go to my website www.broadheadtests.com and read my WB review. It should help answer some of your questions.

ShadowAce 04-14-2004 07:29 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 

ORIGINAL: Rangeball

...if you're biscuit is properly sized and broken in...
Do you really have to break them in?

Straightarrow 04-14-2004 07:30 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
I once trimed a biscuit and added three notches in the bristles, for the vanes to pass through. This configuration actually gained 2 fps over a conventional prong rest. Personally, I wouldn't worry about a couple fps in either direction. It's virtually meaningless.

PABowhntr 04-15-2004 05:01 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 

Do you really have to break them in?
I know that with the original black bristle variety it helped reduce fletching damage considerably.


Personally, I wouldn't worry about a couple fps in either direction. It's virtually meaningless.
Exactly. The only situation where it would matter in my opinino is if you are borderline with KE levels and are trying to tweek out every last bit of speed without sacrificing arrow weight or overall shootability.

Techy 04-15-2004 12:41 PM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
In my experience it has been about 5 fps.

Arrroman 04-16-2004 09:39 AM

RE: How many f.p.s. are lost with the wisker bisket?
 
The old style biscuit probably averaged 1% speed loss compared to a dropaway rest. There are factors that would effect this number. Using three inch straight fletch feathers the speed loss would be hard to measure. The state of tune of the bow will also have an effect on what will be lost. I usually tie in a nockpoint with a piece of bowstring and the difference in speed between using a brass nockpoint and one made of bowstring material more than compensates for any loss from the biscuit. The new B-2 biscuit shows no speed loss compared to a prong style rest. Good luck hunting!


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