WHAT is wrong with my bow
 

Installed new string to fix the "not going to full draw weight" problem, but it didn't fix it!! I guess I will have to take it to one of the shops here and just hope for the best. I posted about this problem on the PSE forum and got no response yet. Am I just lucky or do other people have problems like this too? Any other help from any of you would be appreciated in the meantime. Thanks!

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Twist up your cable. It will add more prestress to your limbs resulting in more weight.

I think I said that the right way?[8D]

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Good suggestion except I've already been there, done that. I twisted the snot out of them and can't shorten my draw any more. What else?

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It may be that your limbs are just a tad bit weaker than what is specified for your bow. I don't know of any other way to bring up the poundage other than twisting the cables. Maybe someone else here can help more?

I would contact your bows manufacturer and ask about replacement limbs if they are not coming up to the weight that is advertised. If your bow is new they should certainly be under warranty.

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How low is the pondage? If it is less then 5 pounds you might have to live with it. How many times have you shot the bow? I had a bow that had 5 years of regular shooting, the older it got the weaker it got.

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Good suggestion except I've already been there, done that. I twisted the snot out of them and can't shorten my draw any more. What else?



Twisting your cable does not shorten your draw length. Twisting your string does. If you twist your cable without twisting your string you will lengthen your draw and increase your poundage. If you have twisted the snot out of both the mabey just try untwisting your string some. But usually twisting your cable has a much greater effect since it is less than half the length of the string.

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Did the bow draw it's rated peak weight for you when you first got it and now it won't?

How do your brace height and axle to axle length check against the factory specs for your bow? If the a-to-a length is longer and brace height lower than they're supposed to be then either your string/cable still has some snot left to get twisted out of them OR they're the wrong length and need to be replaced.

If the a-to-a and brace measure at spec, or if you've twisted up till the brace is more than 3/4" higher and a-to-a more than an inch shorter than spec, and you still cannot get the rated draw weight out of it, I'd send the bow back to the factory.

I will add one exception to that... and this is why I asked at the beginning if the bow has EVER drawn it's rated peak weight for you. If your bow has a cam with adjustable draw length over several inches, and if you're shooting that bow set at one of the shorter draw length adjustments for that cam, you probably will never get the bow to draw it's rated peak weight. You're simply not putting enough bend in the limbs to generate the poundage before the cam(s) roll over.

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Another sugestion similar to Arthur's is , Put the bow in a press , remove the string and cabel , stretch them out , and twist them [or untwist them] to their factory specks , and reinstall . That should get you to the advertised brace and axil length and poundage , if your limbs have not lost strength .

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Is the draw length right, just the weight can't go higher? If so, twist BOTH the string and cables. This will raise the draw weight while keeping the draw length the same. It takes
a bunch of trial and error to get it right, especially on a two-cam to keep the cams synched, but its actually pretty easy. I did this with my wife's Thunderbolt with Maxi-HL cams that we used the cam to adjust down the length 1/2 inch. Problem was we then maxed out on poundage around 42 on 50lb limbs (with cams set to "normal" slots it maxed at 52). I marked the cams with a gel pen, twisted up both cables, twisted up the string then played with it to re-align the cams and poof, maxed it out at 47 which was perfect for her.

--Bob

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Something else to consider. If, as Arthur suggested, the bow did once reach its listed peak weight and now it doesn't then if it does not turn out to be a string/cable problem then it might be a weak limb. Most times that can only be determined at the factory.

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Thank you for all the replies. I've got some information to go over now! In response to some questions: last year PSE changed out the limbs because of a cracked limb so I hope limbs aren't the issue. When I got the bow back from the factory it did go to 60#'s, but over the winter of not shooting it would only go to 54#'s cranked all the way in. That is when it was suggested that I had string/cable stretch and I bought a new string (Berry String). I have shot this bow MANY times in the past, but it is supposed to have new limbs now. You may all call me crazy, but twisting the cables DID shorten the length that I can draw the bow. I'm going to print all of your suggestions out so I can go over them one by one.

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If you did SHORTEN your draw length, then you also lost a little weight. There is no way around that!

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Is there something that I've done concerning the cams then? All I did was press the bow and take one end of each cable off(one at a time) and twist it like 15 times. That is all I did. Now I cannot pull the string all the way back to my normal anchor. Not because of weight, but because the string won't go back any farther.

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I take it you own a dual cam bow ? , alot of the advise given here aplies to a single cam bow .

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[quote]ORIGINAL: Lady Arwen


Twisting your Cable's, will increase your Draw,not shorten it.

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Yeah, it is a dual cam. Model year 2000 PSE Nova with the vector wheels. Should have been more specific in the beginning, eh?

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Ok, I am going to ask two potentially VERY stupid questions, so please don't take offense:

1) when the new string went on, is it in the same slot in the vector wheels?

2) Are you sure you twisted the cables, not the string? I know it might be stupid, but twisting the cables should wrap more string onto the cam, so it would take longer draw to unwind them.

Like I said, potentially stupid, especially #2, but something flat out doesn't make sense here.

--Bob

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No offense taken! :D Yes, it is in the same slot as before and I am absolutely positive that I was twisting the cables and not the string. From what everybody is saying I am also very confused as to how I could be getting different results. Is it possible to twist so much that the cam can't roll over all the way or something?

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It may be worth pressing the bow again and taking both the string and cables off and either twisting or untwisting them to get them back to the factory length's. I just went through the cable twisting thing myself and twisting only the cables should make your draw longer and draw lbs. higher.

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Lady:

Another thought to throw in the pot.

Did you back out your limb bolts before you pressed the bow? If not, you might have bent the riser or stressed the limbs. Are you getting a complete rollover on your cam(s)?

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No, I did not back out the limb bolts before pressing. Was not aware that this was necessary. I honestly don't know if I am getting full rollover on the cams. Will have to check that.

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Another silly question... Are you sure you twisted the right direction and were adding more twists to the cables? Maybe you were actually taking twists out and lengthening the cables? (Even with all my experience and stuff, I make that mistake from time to time. [:o]) That would shorten the draw length and reduce the draw weight, which is exactly what you're describing.

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Here is an update on my problem. I untwisted the cables a few times, and put the string in the next "slot". I can now get 55#'s with limbs all the way in. I don't know for sure if I was twisting in the right direction on my previous attempt or not. What I did was twist in the direction that the cable seemed to be twisted in. Anyway, my problem seems to have been solved thanks to all of you. I do have to get the timing on the cams back in synch, but hopefully I won't have too hard of a time. I am really starting to question whether I had twisted the cables so much that the cam was not able to turn over all the way. Is that even possible? Thank you again to everyone!!!:D

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It really sounds like the new string/cables were not the same length, in any case you seem to have it all fixed up.

If you want post a close-up picture of the cam with the string and slots showing, we can tell you if you shortened it or lengthened it.

--Bob