Vital Bow Gear Ultimate Fallaway observation
 

After playing with this VBG fallaway on my new Liberty, I've found that the little "flipper finger" falls MUCH too slowly, no matter how its set. That being said, I removed the flipper arm, and have found that out of about 150 shots, not a single one had the slightest difference in flight other than an absolute straight line. However, now I'm kind of questioning the point of even having this rest, since I bought it for its arrow retaining abilities. I suspect I'll play around with it some more and see if I can come up with a way to make it work better. Has anyone else done any test that will concur with mine?

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Buy a Dalton 2000 or 5000 drop away rest, its what they put on the bows at the bowtech factory. I have one its awesome

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Absolutely!! So far I'm really disappointed in the rest. I tried to tune mine for over 3 hours this weekend. After 3 hours and feathers ripped completely off of 4 of my arrows, I gave up and put on a Quicktune 3000. Had it shooting bullet holes in 6 shots. The "flipper finger" that holds the arrow on while in the let down position is where I'm getting the most contact. It just plain gets in the way. This is pretty disappointing from a $100.00 rest. I'll probably keep mine and tinker with it a little more, but I don't have a lot of faith in getting it to work.

Did you notice that you had to set your arrow at least an arrow diameter above your berger button hole?

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I am hearing a lot of good things on the trophy taker, guys. That is what I am putting on my bow.

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you where warned;)

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Yeah, Yeah. I'm a little hard headed when I get my mind set on something. I hope this isn't a $100 learning lesson.

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Update... 300 or so arrows through it without the flipper arm, and still havent had a single flier. Every single arrow is going straight to, and now, almost through the target. Havent had a single one fall off the rest yet either. I think Ill just put some fleece on my shelf and shoot it as is.

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Not everyone has had a good experience with the Trophy Taker either. I am beginning to wonder if a person's specific setup in regard to draw weight, draw length and the design of the bow may make certain drop aways more conducive for some folks and not others.

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This is absolutely true in some cases. With bows that have 'parallel' limbs, it's probably best to steer clear of dropaways that use the cable slide to raise/lower the rest. The reason being that bows with this configuration have very little movement of the cable slide and getting the rest to drop when you want is tricky at best. Not that it can't be done, but it usually takes work. Personally, I like dropaways that use the cable slide because the force of pulling up the rest is more evenly distributed to both ends of the bow and you don't have to take off the pull cord if you need to put some twists in a cable.

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olink,I think you are absolutely right.

I had a Trophy Taker and never had any problems what so ever on my Hoyts.


I will be trying the VBG fallaway as soon as I get a chance to get to the shop and pick it up.I really don't think I will have much of an issue at all with it.But I am putting it on an Xtec pulling 28"-28 /2" draw at only 57#-58#'s.This doesn't yield the fastest speeds in the world and there should be plenty of cable movement to ensure clearance.

I am wanting to shoot the new ST Axis arrows from Easton and a fallaway is ALMOST a neccesity.

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2 words... whisker biscuit!

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TFOX,

Me and a friend of mine are shooting Xtec's with the VBG rest on them, no problems whatsoever. We both shoot around 28-28 1/2", around 55lbs. No problems with flight, or accuracy.......with or without the flipper arm.

Are you guys aware that there is an all aluminum 3-d launcher for this rest? No flipper to deal with. Just put the flipper launcher back on when hunting season rolls around and shoot the 3-d target launcher for competition or whatever.
Mikey

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The only problem with your solution is that my main purpose for buying this rest was the flipper finger to hold my arrow in place for hunting; I could care less about 3D. Even after taking the flipper off, I still couldn't get clearance. I actually shot this rest on a Hoyt Ultra Tech bow that was shooting 300 fps and had no clearance problems, so maybe what Olink is saying has a lot of merit about the VFT bows.

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I think in the morning I may try to attatch the rest to the down cable. We'll see how that goes..Of course, I'm a little bit learly of trying it when its shooting well now without the flipper finger.

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I was wondering the same thing. Mine came with a setup to where you could either use the cable slide to pull it up or use a device that clamps on the cable like on the Mathews bows with the roller guard. I may have to give that a try. I also adjusted the stop on the finger so it would fall a little further down out of the way.

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Josh did you ever give this a try? I'm curious as to whether it worked for you or not. I'm wanting to try the same thing on mine.

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yes, I tried it. I've found that it doesnt make a difference where you attatch the cord to, if you have the flipper finger on there, you're going to eventually run into fliers. With the flipper finger off, it made no difference if it was tied to the bottom cable, or to the cable gaurd, good arrow flight was the result. I also fine tuned the cord length so it came up to full height when I was about 3" away from full draw. Seems to be shooting so much better now. I'm actually beginning to like this rest.

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Het guys rest works fine a lot of guys hunting with it no problems I use it hopkins uses it talk to kevin polish from VBG or let me know all your conserns and I will pass them on to him he will be at the indoor IBO shoot in clevland and mertle beach in a couple weeks.

Thanks

Varmint

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Are you saying you had to take the "finger" off regardless? You could not get total clearance every time? If so that sucks because the little "finger" was the main reason I purchased this rest. IMO it's not worth having the rest with the capture feature if I can't use it.

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precisely.

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Hey Josh, I served it into the down cable and voila, it works like a champ on my bow now. It had about a 1/8" high/right tear on the first shot after setting it up. This is even with the finger installed. I did modify it to where the finger moves a little more out of the way when it is in the up position. I'm a happy camper now.