JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
How was dinner? :)
I really looked hard at the PAT SC & Dual as well. It was a really tough decision for me. I eventually just had to flip a coin, as I kept changing my mind. After talking in depth w/ Pat about the Freedom-Cam as compared to some other manufacturers designs for smoothness as well as BowTech' s Infinity cam, I decided to go w/ the eighty pounder. Was there something(s) specific about that made you choose the Freedom over the Infinity? In the end, I hope to be able to draw both and come to my own conclusions, but if the 80# liberty draws like the 70# pat, I may just have to go with a 70# liberty to get the same numbers of the 60# pat... It' s gonna be a busy spring |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
ORIGINAL: Rangeball How was dinner? :) Jeff, I' d be interested in hearing some of those thoughts. After BT Kevin' s comments on the ' 04 Pat being almost as smooth as the liberty, I looked at the paper- Both 33" ata (axle this time ) 1/2" difference in brace. Assuming the 80# liberty does 15 fps more than the 70# numbers Kevin posted, their performance is about identical. As to Kevin' s comments. He should know..he designed them :D I have not even shot them yet. I' ve heard how the new I-cam is smoother and quicker and what they did to obtain that improvement. Were the Liberty not available, I would be shooting another I-cam bow on a Patriot or whatever else. But even if the Pat SC is an 8 for smooth draw, and the Liberty is only a 9, I wanted the smoother bow for reasons I' ll go into below. Was there something(s) specific about that made you choose the Freedom over the Infinity? Personally I also prefer the larger idler wheel. It better matches the size of the cam for better nock travel, and also creates the " illusion" of a longer axle to axle bow in the feel department (greater string angle). While I don' t have a prob with the smaller idler on the I-cam bows and nock travel has not been an issue for me because I know how to avoid any problems it may cause, I still prefer the larger version because of the string angle issue. In the end, I hope to be able to draw both and come to my own conclusions |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Well, first of all I' m assuming what you meant is that the same arrow weight is used for an 80 pound Liberty as compared to a 70 pound Pat SC. At say 5 grains per pound, the Pat SC will still be the faster bow, apples to apples. I think you should compare grains per pound...not X arrow weight in grains out of a 70 pound and the same arrow weight out of another bow @ 80. I' m sure that IF I shot a 80 pound Liberty w/ a 350 grain arrow it would exceed the 70 pound Pat SC' s IBO speed by a pretty big margin. The BT cams are super efficient the lighter the arrow gets I do plan to shoot both. I' m about to call the local dealer to see when he might be ordering new bowtechs. We have no large shops in our area, inventory is usually pretty limited... :( Jeff, what were you able to find out regarding draw length and let off adjustability of the Freedom cam? |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Jeff, what were you able to find out regarding draw length and let off adjustability of the Freedom cam? I hope this is what you' re asking about.... The Freedom cam has 1/2" draw increments and the let off is adjustable same as the Infinity cam. |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Butt in all you want :)
So the Freedom cam lacks the minute draw length adjustability of the I cam? To reach 28.75" dl, one would have to use either a 28.5" module or a 29" module then twist/untwist string/cable 1/4" ? Is there a performance issue that makes one more desireable than the other? |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
ORIGINAL: Rangeball Butt in all you want :) So the Freedom cam lacks the minute draw length adjustability of the I cam? |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
So the Freedom cam lacks the minute draw length adjustability of the I cam? To reach 28.75" dl, one would have to use either a 28.5" module or a 29" module then twist/untwist string/cable 1/4" ? Is there a performance issue that makes one more desireable than the other? I' ve been shooting between 55-65 lbs. for many years. I generally struggle some with 70 lb. bows due to lack of using that particualr poundage on a regular basis. Without knowing it, I shot a 70 lb. Liberty with the Freedom cam on it like it was a 60 lb. bow... just my findings and I know they may vary from person to person. |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Ha!!!! I beat you by 9 seconds.....;):D
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RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Just like two five year olds.....is it time for recess yet?
[>:];):D |
RE: JeffB- Freedom Cam vs. Infinity Cam
Just like two five year olds.....is it time for recess yet? I' m not allowed to have recess anymore. I fell off the monkey bars and hit my head (more than once) and now they won' t let me out of this place I' m in...;):D |
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