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My wife would shoot me if I spent 15 million on a bow[:o][:-]:D

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Sounds like a neat idea though I doubt I would personally use one.

On a related note, I suggest you prepare yourself for some of the responses you are probably about to receive....;)

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Why not just use a tank? Sounds like it would work in a similar manner. ;)

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Why not just use a tank? Sounds like it would work in a similar manner. ;)

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Why not just use a tank? Sounds like it would work in a similar manner. ;)

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I think the idea is not so bad...........
Serious.
How many time have you been in a situation you wanted to share with your buddy after the trip?
I would not like the idea in using such a thing for aiming but for all the other things....
Hmmmm...........
I will not be suprised if its going to be a serious project...

But what i wanted to ask you.
Do you also wake up at night thinking about archery?
I do the same!
Funny.

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Hummm?

I' m thinking about buying an old recurve or maybe finishing a longbow kit.[:o]
What' s up with that?;)

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OUCH!:(

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That' d be one of the gizmo' s that I would not want. My opinion is that it would be going too far. Heck, I wouldn' t be surprised to see something like that in the next 5 years. Along with live action hologram decoys, photon arrows and personal teleports to beam you directly to the deer. :D

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Hey, now there is something I could go for. It would beat carrying all 80 lbs of my goose decoys into the fields when I go goose hunting. :D

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A long time ago, there existed a sport called " bowhunting." You can read about it in the historical records preserved at the Smithsonian.

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I' m actually in agreement with c903 on this one. I' d like the bow and accessory comapanies work on ergonomics, quietness and reliability of their current products before doing anything else. My current setup is complicated enough. I' ve gone to great lengths to buy the most robust setup that I can find....even one of the simplest rests on the market that c903 hates ;)

My wife wants to buy me a really nice bow for our 10th anniversery. She can' t believe that I want a recurve and some traditional equipment. I want something I don' t have to maintain all the time and worry about. Something that I don' t have to worry about sights getting knocked out of whack, buss cables getting frayed, peeps sights cutting strings, bushings going out of cams, dirt in the idler wheel, limbs cracking, risers bending, etc..etc... It would be nice to be able to say, " I missed" and not blame it on the bow, the sights, the broadhead.

There' s something magical about the simplicity of traditional equipment and a few more of us ought to try it now and then.

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AKDoug:

You have a wife who wants you to have a special bow for your 10th anniversary.:D

The rest is gravy!;)

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Ya, I have looked into some trad equipment also. Have you priced a nice Osage bow lately( $5-600?) And you thought new technology was expensive!;) If you crack a limb on that bow you are out BIG TIME! I actually have an Osage tree near me that needs to come down, so maybe 6 or 7 years from now when I am older and wiser I' ll cut that puppy down split it into staves and whittle myself out a few, in the truly traditional way. In the meantime however, I am quite content to hunt with my technologically advanced equipment.

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I also definately see this trend beginning to grow--everyone is going back to the " basics" it seems, my traditional sales rose almost 30% in 2003.

Why? Gee, I don' t know. Could be people are sick of being force-fed all of the marketing BS from manufacturers and are just rebelling.[:o] I must admit I also sometimes get sick of all of the " hype" ads that you know will be completely turned around the following year to say the exact opposite once people start actually figuring things out.[X(]

And, alot of these guys who switch back to basics seem to be having more fun again, because they are SHOOTING (what a concept!) instead of worrying about how fast the bow is, or how quiet, or what the force-draw is, or if it has straight and level nock travel, and who' s limbs are best, who' s riser is best, etc,etc, etc.

30% in one year. I think the manufacturers of the high-tech equipment might wanna re-think their marketing strategies a bit for the future. JMHO Pinwheel 12

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The aspect I dislike most about modern gear was summed up by AK. When you carry a modern bow into the woods you have to treat it as a finely honed instrument, being extra careful not to get a twig caught on your peep tubing or wedged into the idler track [:@]. Where I hunt, I usually have to almost crawl to my treestand because of the thickness of the brush. I read somewhere that I should use my equipment to brush away foliage to minimize my scent, ya right. I carry that thing like a baby through the brush. I have often thought -If this were a long bow it would be lighter, I could strap it on my back or use it as a walking stick, firewood, fishin' pole, club, etc... [>:] !
Each path has its own advantages and disadvantages. I would like to have the option to use either or, depending on the hunt. Unfortunately for me I have expensive taste, and this prohibits me from purchasing the stickbow I would like to have. i.e my wife would kill me if I spent 600+ dollars on trad gear and a wooden bow. [:@];)

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Redpath:

May I suggest that you look into Checkmate Recurve bows. Nice products, excellent pricing!

As Frank mentioned, I am OLD (51), and get a little crotchety when people start talking about quantum leaps in technology. I guess I just don' t get the point sometimes. Even so, I am interested when new bows come out.

I currently have a great bow. It is set up simply (by my standards, anyway). No peep sight, 3 pin fiber optic sight (which I may change to something simpler till next year), a Winn release that I clip directly on the string, and the dreaded " Whacking Basket" rest. It shoots broadheads perfectly straight, and as accurately as I can shoot. I don' t worry about anything happening to it though.;)

If I am going to try something new for next year, it will probably be a stickbow of some kind. I don' t know if I will get good enough to hunt with it or not, but I will be able to shoot it when I take my boys to a local club and shoot their paper animal round. That is more important to me right now.;)

I don' t really begrudge anyone trying to develop new products, but I am pretty analytical when they start telling me I need them.:D

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My feelings exactly. New gadgets are nice to play with but they have to be something special before they find their way onto my hunting bow.

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JoePA and I seem to be on the same path. I also have a compound, WB, basic pin sight, and a Winn release. I couldn' t be happier and I shoot great with the combo. I actually, purposefully, pushed my equipment hard on this last hunt. The bow rode bunjied corded to a plastic tote in the back of my truck for almost 500 miles, was carried through the thickest black spruce you could imagine, and was pushed ahead of me army-crawl style acrost frozen crunchy snow on the open tundra in a few failed stalks. It didn' t fail me and when I got home it still hit exactly as when I left. HOWEVER, I had to constantly rub the ice off of my cables and string serving throughout the first couple days. That' s why the bow ended up riding in the back of the truck...warm bow and cold weather=ice. The minor troubles we go through are still often less than rifle hunters with optics go through in inclement weather.

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AKDoug:

Being I have never used one, I do not hate the " Whackin' Basket," I simply cannot accept the design vs. what a rest is supposed to do or not do.

As for the suggestions of going back to the basics, I believe it is a right move in the right direction for less problems, less cost, and more bowhunting pleasure. However, I definitely do not believe that one has to go back or go to the recurve or longbow to get " basic."

In fact, unless a shooter is proficient or once was proficient with a recurve or longbow, I would not recommend that a person revert that far unless he or she is ready and willing to put in the time to learn how to shoot a stick and string.

Some very good compound designs, setups, and accessories are available that can qualify for a return to the basics and still be a mean killing machine, durable and reliable, and far less stress (shock) and down-the-road negative affect on the bow and your body.

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Yo Navy! why not just get them heat seaking arrows then just point it somewhat in the right direction, away from the tank, any you have meat on the table. just kidding ....

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Redpath, don' t wait! Go ahead and cut the tree and split it into staves NOW. In 6 or 7 years, the wood will be seasoned to perfection and ready to turn into bows. If you wait 6 or 7 years to cut the tree, then it will be at least another year before the wood is ready to work.

This topic has me thinking of the movie " Robin Hood: Men in Tights" where Robin had a Patriot guided arrow. I swear, it looks like a lot of stuff guys are already carrying into the woods was dreamed up by Mel Brooks. LOL :)