Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

I have yet to see either bow, but from what I'm gathering, these will be the two that I will focus my new bow buying attention to. Please add any information or insight on either of these models. I noticed neither are up on the manufacturers websights, with exception of a small write up about the Patriot.
I think I'm leaning towards the Mathews right now, mainly because I am familiar with Mathews bows, and have never shot Bowtech. I look forward to comparing them in the near future, and I'll update you guys on my findings.
Thanks in advance for any info.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

I have never shot the mathews but I shot the Patriot at the AMO show and let me tell you. I've been a Hoyt man all my life and will die one, but the Patriot was sweet sweet sweet. It was one of the sweetest shooting bows i've ever shot, had bowtechs speed and look with the softness of a cybertech. Its gonna be a great bow i think

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Jerry,
Yuo know where I stand on this one!:) Hey and I actually like Mathews bows.

I'd definitely shoot both if I could......they should actually be pretty close in "Feel". They have similar designs......well riser/limb configurations anyway. ANd they have the same ATA length and near identical brace heights.
I think I'd wait to see how the whole "Roller Guard Thingamajiggy" pans out for Mathews first......that idea didn't make it before when it was tried, plus I'm not sure how it would react in the harsh climate you hunt in.
SOmething to think about.

I would check everything VS the other .....draw weight and length (don't just assume it's a 29"), shoot em' thru a chrono and check speeds.......if Mathews is saying 308, it better do pretty near 296-298at 29" for you with just a brass nockset.
The BowTech WILL do advertised speed.....or it doesn't ever leave the factory. They advertise 312-320, so expect an IBO of about 315-316 on average.......that will mean 305fps or so at 29".
I find it odd that BowTech still continues to be the ONLY bow manufacturer to let people shoot thru a chronograph at the AMO show? They measure the draw length, weight, and brace height......then let you shoot it thru the chrono to SEE the speed.
I guess the others don't need to prove anything huh?
Again check them.......I've owned Mathews bows, they shot nice and I liked them a lot, but none has shot the speeds advertised.....even with a little longer draw length than advertised.
Speed isn't EVERYTHING.....but it translates into more KE for those &quot;Bunnies and squirrels&quot; you hunt up there.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

BowTech uses the finest strings and cables in the industry.....&quot;Winners Choice&quot;. They are top of the line, will not stretch (pre-stretched before installation)and will help you keep the Patriot in tune easier than the Mathews.......As an example my Mathews Ultra Max's string stretched out almost a full inch in a few months.....this caused me to have to lower the draw length by switching to the last 'Peg' on the cam, which cost me the original speed and efficiency that I had purchased.
With the Winner's Choice stuff.....you buy a 29&quot;, and it STAYS a 29&quot;.

The Patriot also has a lifetime warranty on their bows except on string/cable, and finish.

You're gonna have to make the decision for yourself......I just think the Patriot has the edge in every way over any bow Mathews has in their line-up. Quality of components, Fit and Finish, Speed.....How you rate them side by side is gonna be personal.
Here's a link to a write up describing the Patriot when it was first introduced.....
http://www.bowhunting.net/eMagazine/...h-Patriot.html

I'm hearing nothing but rave reviews for this bow all over from people who shot it at the AMO show......and to be honest I haven't heard anything positive about Mathews offerings, not saying that their isn't(and maybe I'm not looking:)......but the word is that this Patriot may be the bow to beat this year.

I don't think you could go wrong either way.....Their both quality bows,I'm just convinced that BowTech is a BETTER made and BETTER performing bow.....plus like I said I'd be a little leary of that &quot;Roller&quot; deal for a bit.
If I were you I'd almost compare the &quot;Patriot&quot; to a &quot;Q2&quot;.....I know the Patriot is also a &quot;First YEar&quot; offering, but it just sounds like more potentially go wrong with the Lagacy VS. the Q2 or the Patriot.

It'll be an interesting choice......I'll be anxious to hear the results.





Edited by - Matt / PA on 02/01/2002 20:11:20

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

ABM,

Here's a link to a photo of the new Mathews Icon. Kinda spiffy <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
http://www.archery.20m.com/assets/im..._Matthews1.jpg

A to A on the Icon is 37&quot;, and 34&quot;(?) on the Legacy (I think). Fancy new cam on the Icon, Straightline MaxCam on the Legacy. Cool cable rollers on both, and the thing on the idler end is also on the cam end. Supposed to dampen all the string oscillation upon release. My buddy just ordered 2 of the Icons this morning. I'm interested to see what the production/shipping time is on these hotties.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Wes!!!.....Holy carp you're alive!!! Aloha my friend......long time no hear.
How's everything goin'?
Are you back to stay, or is this just a tease?

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Well well, look who the cat drug in! <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> Nice to hear from you again Wes! You must be busy with the job and all. Ready to go back into the smoke meat business yet? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Hope the family is well, tell Joe I said hello when you speak to him again.

Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. The pro shop that I spoke with said Mathews indicated a 6 week delivery time for the icon and legacy. Any idea on MSRP's for both of these bows?

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

I myself am saving for the mathews legacy for my next hunting bow. Hope to have it by March. I have the catalog & they are a nice looking bow as is the bowtech. I like the mathews grip & the the way their cams bottom out - to me that is the main reason for my choice. as to the legacy over a Q2....well I figure I might as well get the newest & latest if I am spending that much money. for more on the legacy go to the other post called Mathews/whats up? I gave all the specs there.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

OOOhh gosh is that Mathews wierd looking...

barring the looks it just seems like more stuff to

A) have go wrong

or

B) get caught in brush, etc in the woods.


Very dissapointing AFAIC...seems like Matt has finally run out good ideas..

I'll just keep my Q2.

IMO of course

JeffB :)

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

anywhere from 650-679 for the legacy, the icon is a bit more, real close to 700. really it all depends on your dealer & what they are willing to sell for.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

matt, how much different is the patroit than the 2001 bk2 other than the pro riser?

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RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

The Patriot will retail around $700. The local dealer will have one next week COOL!!! email me and I can get you the exact price. This is one of the smoothist bows I have ever shot. Bowjunkie ([email protected])

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RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

After comparing pictures of the bowtech patriot and the Mathew's Legacy, I think I'm leaning on the side of purchasing another expensive hat.
Seeing that Mathews has me all jazzed up about it now. I think it'll come down to feel completely when I take em both for a test drive.
Thanks for the link to the Mathews! I'd actually be real interested in that sportsman for wing shooting. I wonder what that'll retail for.
I'm also amazed that they didn't jack up the price of the Arrow Web quivers with the harmonic dampners. Figured they would go for at least an additional $20. Before I put on my doinker on my Q2XL, I would get a small twanging noise from the quiver and from the rest, but that solved both those problems.
Okay, now I'm getting ancy! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Edited by - ArcticBowMan on 02/02/2002 12:00:31

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Man them things are UUUGGGLLY. Look like some kind of throw back to the early 80's or before with all that junk on the end of the limbs and cables.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Finally, some pics of the new Mathews, thanks bwrong.

They do look nice, but I think the cable roller and string dampener are just a little too gimmicky for me, and this is coming from someone who shoots Mathews now. I think I will take Matt/PA's advice and go with the BowTech Patriot for the reasons he cited. My dealer is supposed to be getting some Patriots in in a couple of weeks, and unless there is something radically strange about the way they shoot, I will be buying one. I have shot some of the other BowTech models and have found they are very well put together, at least as good in quality as Mathews, probably better.

ABM, I honestly think you should give BowTech a serious look.

Thanks again Matt/PA for helping me seal the deal, it's been killin' me for over a month.

Moonge, I should be getting my BowTech about the same time you get your Mathews. Post some feedback on how you like it and why you think I made the wrong decision, I'll do the same.

Thanks all for the help, this board is great.

MN_BOWHUNTER

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

sounds good MN_BOWHUNTER, Once I get my hands on one & get to shoot then I will make my final choice! I like the look of the bowtech too! oh well I'll keep you posted on the legacy when I get it.

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Jerry,
Hey bro, we handle both lines at the shop...gimmie a call or shoot me an e-mail before ya buy one...I'll fill ya in on all the pros and cons in regards to both of them. Be happy to help ya however i can......Jaw

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Jerry,
Just to screw with your head a little bit more.
Don't buy the &quot;Hat&quot; just yet.....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I don't need to give you 2nd hand info on the &quot;Patriot&quot; anymore.....I shot it.

You may want to check out the new topic on the &quot;Bowhunting&quot; forum......&quot;I Shot the BowTech PATRIOT&quot;.

&quot;MN BOWHUNTER&quot;.....wise man my friend......that's all I'm gonna say.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

RE: Mathews Legacy vs. Bowtech Patriot
 

Dang it Matt! This ain't funny!

Heck, maybe I'll just buy the new cam and get out of the new bow market! This is too frustrating!

I'll give them both a try still, but might just get the extra cam now and buy a new bow after our next October Goat Hunt. I'd like to wait to hear more reviews on both bows, and see if they start experiencing problems. Both bows seem like they are very innovative, and I'm sure one or the other will be in my hands in the future.

Jawbone, you've got mail!