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BFritsch 09-16-2015 10:38 PM

Ram cat broad heads?
 
Have any of yall used ram cat broad heads I'm thinking about switching to them looking for reviews?

super_hunt54 09-19-2015 07:31 PM

Well, I've never used them, never seen one till today (on the site) and I would have to say nope to them. #1 reason is: Any broadhead that has to advertise that "if no pass through then it's okay because they are sharpened on the back" then that immediately tells me they have a problem penetrating.
#2: They have a serrated type cutting surface which by design will NOT penetrate as well as a smooth surfaced cutting edge.

What heads are you currently using?

rockport 09-20-2015 02:40 AM

I kind of like the concept in theory. Worth a try IMO

BFritsch 09-22-2015 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4219319)
Well, I've never used them, never seen one till today (on the site) and I would have to say nope to them. #1 reason is: Any broadhead that has to advertise that "if no pass through then it's okay because they are sharpened on the back" then that immediately tells me they have a problem penetrating.
#2: They have a serrated type cutting surface which by design will NOT penetrate as well as a smooth surfaced cutting edge.

What heads are you currently using?

Currently rage chisel tip and nap thunder head 100 grain but I jut got some helix 100 gr single beveled broad heads heard good things about single beveled but I was looking at ramcat's because I want a good fixed blade the thunderhead as killed every thing I shot but having trouble gettin to fly perfect every time

super_hunt54 09-22-2015 04:54 PM

If it's a true flying head you want that will drop deer as long as you do your part, you wont go wrong with G5 Montechs or Slick Trick standards. I exclusively use them both and have never had either one fail to put a deer or elk down as long as I did my part. They fly consistently with my field tips as long as my bow is tuned in perfectly.

BFritsch 09-22-2015 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4219959)
If it's a true flying head you want that will drop deer as long as you do your part, you wont go wrong with G5 Montechs or Slick Trick standards. I exclusively use them both and have never had either one fail to put a deer or elk down as long as I did my part. They fly consistently with my field tips as long as my bow is tuned in perfectly.

Thanks bud

rockport 09-22-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by BFritsch (Post 4219942)
Currently rage chisel tip and nap thunder head 100 grain but I jut got some helix 100 gr single beveled broad heads heard good things about single beveled but I was looking at ramcat's because I want a good fixed blade the thunderhead as killed every thing I shot but having trouble gettin to fly perfect every time

Do yourself a favor and try the thunderhead razors. The ones superhunt mention fly better than most as well but not quite as good as the thunderhead razors from my experience.

super_hunt54 09-22-2015 07:14 PM

Gonna make me try those now Rock! Not so sure I like having to use screws to hold in the blades but I may give them a whirl.

rockport 09-22-2015 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4219986)
Gonna make me try those now Rock! Not so sure I like having to use screws to hold in the blades but I may give them a whirl.

I actually ended up liking the screw retention(no arrow needed). The blades break off before the screws fail and ive only had that happen hitting a steel post. Obviously not montec tough but pretty tough.

Perfect combination of cut,penetration,and flight for me anyway but you know how that goes.

They used to be called "nightmares" and NAP changed the name. I first ran into them at a going out of business sale for $10 otherwise I probably never would have tried them. I remember thinking "damn all the good ones are already gone" but they proved me very wrong and Ive been shooting them every since.

My 3 finalist last time I went to buy a bulk of broadheads were Slick tricks, Montecs, and Nightmares......I was actually very surprised when the Nighmares I dug out of the bargain bin ended up being the pretty clear winner

rockport 09-22-2015 08:04 PM

Sadly I am now about to open my final pack of the nightmares


super_hunt54 09-22-2015 09:05 PM

Are you busting the ferrules or something? They have replacement blades. I have a few slick tricks with going on the 4rth set of blades. Hell of a lot cheaper than 31 bucks for 3!

rockport 09-23-2015 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4220000)
Are you busting the ferrules or something? They have replacement blades. I have a few slick tricks with going on the 4rth set of blades. Hell of a lot cheaper than 31 bucks for 3! http://www.amazon.com/NAP-Nightmare-.../dp/B009L56F1S

No, I have a pile of them and a bunch of replacement blades. Once they are all used I will go through and replace all the blades and start over.


The thunderhead razor, thunderhead edge, and nightmare blades all interchange.

Muzzy makes an offset head now as well(trocar). I'll probably give those a look. I'm pretty much sold on the off set concept.

bronko22000 09-27-2015 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4219968)
Do yourself a favor and try the thunderhead razors. The ones superhunt mention fly better than most as well but not quite as good as the thunderhead razors from my experience.

While a well tuned bow will shoot ANY broadhead with great accuracy so long as the broadhead is aligned with the shaft (That will kill any accurate flight) I disagree with you. All the Slick Trick Broadheads I've ever shot (Standard, Razor Trick, and currently the Viper Trick) shot with supreme accuracy. There is absolutely no way that the Thunderhead could fly better. The same I could possibly agree with. But not better.

rockport 09-28-2015 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4220714)
While a well tuned bow will shoot ANY broadhead with great accuracy so long as the broadhead is aligned with the shaft (That will kill any accurate flight) I disagree with you. All the Slick Trick Broadheads I've ever shot (Standard, Razor Trick, and currently the Viper Trick) shot with supreme accuracy. There is absolutely no way that the Thunderhead could fly better. The same I could possibly agree with. But not better.

That is from my experience. You may have different results.

I have found that when I am helping people get their broadheads shooting right that the slick tricks(other than grizztricks) are great and the thunderhead razors or "nightmares" are even better. Better might not even be the right word as both broadheads are great. I should probably say even more forgiving. The Montecs shoot really good as well.

All 3 of those are really good heads and if for some reason I couldn't find the thunderheads I would not hesitate to use either of the other 2 with no concerns.

super_hunt54 09-28-2015 11:54 PM

I honestly fail to see where a broadhead can fly better than a trick. A long re-curve bow can be mighty unforgiving. Hard to "tune" one of them. :D So you have to "tune" your arrow setups instead. Had a few bows that, while rare and pretty much insignificant, had one limb just a weeeeeee bit faster than the other. That'll create some tail happy arrows. Had to get creative with my noch point as well as my FOC point to make those puppies nail drivers. But I have never had an issue dialing in a trick broadhead. They have always flew dead on with my field tips.

rockport 09-29-2015 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4220953)
I honestly fail to see where a broadhead can fly better than a trick. A long re-curve bow can be mighty unforgiving. Hard to "tune" one of them. :D So you have to "tune" your arrow setups instead. Had a few bows that, while rare and pretty much insignificant, had one limb just a weeeeeee bit faster than the other. That'll create some tail happy arrows. Had to get creative with my noch point as well as my FOC point to make those puppies nail drivers. But I have never had an issue dialing in a trick broadhead. They have always flew dead on with my field tips.

Ive seen plenty of bows so out of tune not even a slick trick would fly with field points. Here is what happens to be more specific.

I tell people you have to practice with broadheads. They ask why etc. etc. you know how that conversation goes. When I finally convince them you have to shoot your broadheads before going hunting they are often way off. Before I mess with anything I say "here try these broadheads". Most of the time both the slick tricks and the thunderhead razors fly with there field points but on the rare occasion that one does and the other don't it is usually the razor that does although on very rare occasion I have seen it the other way around..

On my setup I feel like the razor is even more forgiving than my field points. I shoot helical blazer fletching and slick tricks fly just like my field points and the razors group better than both.

90% of the time these people were originally shooting muzzy. The most common scenario is people shooting muzzy broadheads out of an old bow that shoots 220 FPS with no problems then they buy a new bow that shoots 280 fps or faster and have problems.

rockport 09-30-2015 06:50 AM

Well tomorrow is opening day and here is what is going in the quiver. Ignore the chips..I keep one of each in there to shoot targets and make sure all is still good.


DIY_guy 10-01-2015 05:34 AM

Ive now witnessed them in action and I am impressed.

rockport 10-06-2015 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by DIY_guy (Post 4221300)
Ive now witnessed them in action and I am impressed.

Perfect shot or did they have to earn it?

dorobuta 10-07-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4219959)
If it's a true flying head you want that will drop deer as long as you do your part, you wont go wrong with G5 Montechs or Slick Trick standards. I exclusively use them both and have never had either one fail to put a deer or elk down as long as I did my part. They fly consistently with my field tips as long as my bow is tuned in perfectly.

I really like the G5 Strikers, they seem to fly like a field point.


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