Lengthening Draw length
 

Anybody here ever tried to lengthen draw length by using a modified grip? or any other ideas?
I don' t want to do it now but thought maybe after the season I could play around.
I have a 27" draw length and was looking to see if there are any feasible ideas to get me in the 28-29 inch range.
Thanks

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

My question is why? About the only thing you will gain is 10 fps or so and a lot of bad habits.

About the only way I know of doing it is to twist the cable....it will lengthen the DL but will also increase draw weight.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

I don' t know if I' d particularly want to do this. I think all you could gain would be about an inch or so, and that would not equate to a lot more speed (I' m assuming that' s what you are looking for). Remember that whatever increment that you gain in draw length by modifying your grip you loose in brace height.

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Now if you have a 27" draw lenght why would you want to adjust your bow for a longer lenght all your going to achive is screwing up your form and bringing in bad habbits for minimium gains in speed.

It just does not make any sense to me what so ever.

If you are just after more speed then go and get a speed bow that you are going to be able to shoot at the correct draw lenght and keep good form.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

EASY FELLAS! I was just thinking out loud. I' m not a speed freak. I was just curious.

I know that you have mentioned it would screw up your form but could you explain exactly what gets screwed up. It just seems that if you draw the same and shoot the same that the only thing that would change would be the brace height. My current bow has over 9 inches of brace height(Bowtech TomKat) so I' m guessing I have some room to play.

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Yes, I' d like to know that also. By modifying the grip as DeerT has mentioned in order to get a longer draw, you would not change your anchoring point, or change the angle in you bow hand. Basically, you would have to make the grip with a greater amount of material (distance) between the riser and the hand. About the only thing that I can think of that this may amplify would be if there was a torque problem to begin with.

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Seems most folks today shoot low wrist, with their palm down on the handle, and a bent elbow. Mostly to get their arm out of the way of the string on low brace bows. At 9" brace, you don' t have that problem.

If you switch to high wrist, straight elbow and float the handle on the web between the thumb and forefinger you might can pick up an inch of draw length or more. Plus, getting the hand off that handle makes it less likely to torque the bow. Only drawback is that form isn' t as strong, so you might have to back off the draw weight and work back up as you develop strength.

High wrist, straight elbow is good form and was very popular not all that long ago. It' s very stable - IMO, much more stable than the low wrist/bent elbow. Like I said, it was the low brace height speed bows that forced shooters away from it.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

Modifying the grip alone will not increase drawlength or power stroke.

If you add 2" to the grip AND lengthen the draw by 2 inches then your anchor would remain the same. You would add 2" deflex to the riser and he would now have a 7" (false brace).

The bow would be much more touchy and tougher to shoot imo. Its hard to say to waht effect this would have though.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

Wait a minute. If you want to INCREASE draw length by modifying the handle exclusively, you' d have to REMOVE material between your grip hand and the riser.

There would be NO increase (or decrease, for that matter) in speed because there' s no change in the power stroke of the bow. You are simply changing how the bow fits you. The problem with that is that you have to " over-extend" yourself just to get the bow drawn back to where it was before. The anchor point MUST change (or you' ve got to stretch your bow arm out longer). Either way, your body is NOT going to be in the same position as it was.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

Nope, other way around. By adding material (keeping the same style grip), you will move the riser further from your body. In order to keep the same anchor, you would have to increase the draw length.

If you remove material, you would bring the bow closer to your body, and would have to decrease the draw length in order to keep the same anchor.

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

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RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

Bob,

I think we' re saying the same thing. DeerT' s question was can you " lengthen the draw length by using a modified grip."

I' m saying that if the ONLY thing he wants to change is the handle, he' d have to remove material to increase the distance between his grip hand and anchor hand.

You' re saying that if he added material to the grip, he' d SHORTEN his draw length, so then he' d need to adjust cables/string to get back to where he was. (Which I agree with.)

I thought he was asking " how do you change to bow' s handle to achieve a change in draw length" ?

RE: Lengthening Draw length
 

Thanks for all of the input! The link that Rangeball provided was what I was thinking about. Sorry I didn' t clarify. If I could use a 28,29 or even 30" module on the bow I currently own my kinetic energy and speed would increase which would give me more options for other areas(sights with less pins,mechanical BH' s, etc).
Now, finally does anyone know of a company that can custom make this style of grip? I may tinker with this after the season...or just buy a new bow:D