Which arrow would you hunt with and why?
 

I have two arrow choices to chose from this season and I was wondering if you all could give me your opinions on which one to choose? Let me tell you what I have. I have a dozen carbon express 3d selects 300, 30 inches long, 3, 4 inch duravanes fletched with a slight helical, and 100 grain muzzy 3 blades. Total weight on these arrows are 394 grains. I also have a dozen beman ics hunter 340' s, 30 inches long, with 3, 4 inch feathers fletched with a slight helical and 100 grain muzzy 3 blades. Total weight is 411 grains. I have a 29 inch draw, use a loop, and shoot 68 pounds on my mathews lx. I also use a shoot through rest.These arrows both shoot so close to each other it is hard to decide on which one. I have shot with vanes for years, but was just looking to try something different this season. I should add I vary rarely hunt in the rain. I know most will say it is my own preference on which one, but wonder what you all would use and which one would give me better results under hunting conditions and be more forgiving if I can' t use good form, which when your huntin' is sometimes hard to do. Good luck this season and shoot straight. Bhunter32.

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I' d go with the cool lookin' ones... if they both are cool, I' d flip a quarter. Seriously.

Both of those arrows are reported to be of consistent spine, weight and straightness. If they tuned equally well, it' d boil down to aesthetics for me...

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I' ll 2nd Rangeball.

I don' t think that the difference in weight will make a hill of beans worth of difference in the arrow' s effectiveness. Shoot the one that stands out in your mind for one reason or another.

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I pretty much agree with Rangeball and 98Redline It doesn' t really matter much.
BUT...if given the choice, I' d go with the 3-D selects...because the vanes ARE shooting JUST as good as the feathers, you might as well have the vanes JUST incase it DOES rain...that and it you bump your quiver full of feathers, they can make a bit of noise.
these are SMALL reasons...but all else being equal (weight is too close to be a concern for speed and/or penetration) I had to pick a tie breaker.

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Go with the heavier arrow and feathers..................:D

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Go with the BEMANS the name sets it off BE MAN got to love em thats what i shoot and man they last for ever for me.:D

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Not me; I would go with the arrows that seem to be more consistent in good flight and consistent accuracy, even if the difference is micro. " Cool looking" is for show; just " plain and drab" accuracy is for hunting.

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Just by glancing at the specs its seems the 340s would be overpsined? The CX300s seem like they are right, but not the bemans...

If they shoot good I guess it doesnt matter.

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The guy at my local proshop told me that with the bemans since I was so close on the charts to go with the 340 instead of the 400, because they recommend one size stiffer when shooting a single cam. Both of these are tuned to bullet holes so that is not a problem. I am leaning more toward the bemans right now. Thanks for the responses and keep em comin.

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i shoot the cx 300 they shoot good for me........[8D]

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I would go with which ever ones perform better when shooting broadheads out to your max hunting range. If they both shoot equally well, I would go with your gut instinct. The bemans are a little heavier but not enough to make much of a difference.


Good Luck!

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Carbon Express. Im a little prejudice because they are what I shoot and I know they perform extremely well.

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The pro shop guy steered you right on going to 340' s instead of 400' s. I found out the hard way about being on the top end of a carbon shaft' s spine limit. Couldn' t hit diddly with them, even with field points. Trying to shoot broadheads on the 340' s was discouraging enough, but on the 400' s it was a total disaster.

If the 3D Selects are as good as the Terminator Selects I' ve been messing with for the past week, then the choice is a no-brainer. Use them!

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Art:

The " carbon cult" has brainwashed you. You are on a rapid decline. Stand ready; I am putting together a " snatch and haul ass" team. We are coming for you. We will have a deprogrammer aboard to start the process (mind cleansing) immediately. :)

PS: Send me those 2315' s immediately. During your withdrawal period you might purposely damage those shafts out of misdirected hostility. ;)

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ROTFL!:) I caught almost as much flack when I started experimenting with aluminum arrows, nigh on 30 years ago. Aluminum proved out good enough to pull me away from wood. Will carbon be good enough to pull me away from aluminum?

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I' d have to say that after using both the carbons and aluminums on fixed broadheads, I' ll stick with aluminums. If I ever decide to go with a mechanical, I may reconsider. But only with a carbon that is as heavy as my aluminums.

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In the simplest of terms, " pointy" objects penetrate soft materials better than " blunt" objects. ;) (Lord, we' re about to go Crayola here.) :D:D

Just for comparision: Imagine hitting...say a cow...with three different weapons using the same force. First, imagine using a large rock (ie; a 12g slug). You' ll bruise it, but do little else. Now imagine hitting it with the pointy end of a cold chisel (ie; your chisel point head). You might be able to jam the thing through it' s flesh just a little. Finally, imagine plunging a sword into it (ie; a cut-on-contact head). You' d get a good bit of penetration with the sword, right?

Of course, (all other things remaining equal) if you increase the velocity, penetration increases overall. At some point, velocity will be high enough to allow even blunt objects (such as slugs and bullets, cannonballs, and even rocks) to penetrate.

On a graduated scale, cut on contact heads are simply more " pointy" than cone heads...providing increased cutting ability and offering less physical resistance. Sooooo, they penetrate better.

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I would go with the 394grain because even that is a little much considering you should be shooting an arrow anwhere from 340-360 grains...I calculate it like this, never less than 5grains per pound, which 5grains for you @ 68lbs would be 340grains...But by going with a little bit more grain you loose speed but pick up more kenetic energy which gives you more hitting power...But if its possible to come down i would bring it down to at least 360 with 4inch vains to stabilize the arrow out a little more for flight with a broadhead...But if those are your only 2 choices then go with the 394grains.. you can also go to a 90 broadhead and cut it down to 384 which would be a little bit better.

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I wouldn' t consider going even lighter than 394 grains to be ' better' by any stretch of the imagination. Even if you drop 30 grains of arrow weight, you' re only looking at some 5 fps of arrow speed, with absolutely NO effect on pin settings or trajectory. But you' d be looking at the potential cost of worse arrow flight due to screwing up your FOC; probably a good bit of retuning to get arrow flight back; a loss, however minimal, in KE and momentum (you' re running light on momentum already!).

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I would go with the Bemans for one simple reason...durability. I was shooting Carbon Express for several years and though I found them acceptable in just about every category, I had way too many that split at the nock end if they hit anything of a hard substance. Granted, I could install the whole ACC bushing setup but then again I could do that with the Bemans too. I switched to the Bemans this past year and I have yet to have a single one crack at the nock end. Bemans use some form of adhesive layer between the carbon layers to help improve the durability of the arrow. A " no brainer" as someone put it....:D.

....but I would ditch the feathers and put vanes on them....:)

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Beaman........Or Easton.

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W/ the energy the LX is putting out @ your specs, I think it doesn' t really matter in that regard.

Both arrows have their strengths and weaknesses.

Toss a coin :D

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Hey BBQ Boy.
Whats wrong some one have a go at you about long replies or something:D

I am used to seeing atleast 5 minutes of good reading from you[:o];)

Now back to the question at hand I would go for the slightly heavier Beamans for the same reason as Frank Durability

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BBQ Boy?

uhm....O.....K....

With all the typing I' ve been doing in the past few days Russ, my fingers are cramping :D;)[:-]