Arrow Question
Hello everyone! I have an arrow question I was hoping someone could help me with.
I am not going to mention any brand names (I don't want to start a product bash). I currently shoot an arrow with a straightness of .003 and weighs 10.5 gr per inch. I am looking into getting some new arrows (mostly for practice,) that have a straightness of .005 and weighs 10.6 gr per inch. And I would really like to keep the heavier arrow My question is: if I change arrows will the straightness and the weight difference between the two arrows affect my POI dramatically? I have my sights dialed in just the way I want them and I don’t won’t to have to keep changing my sights from practice to a hunting situation ( I do a lot of off season hog hunting). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. |
Country - questions like this always baffle me. I don't want this to come off the wrong way, but why would you want a lesser quality arrow for practice and use your 'better' arrows for hunting. My advice is to buy yourself another 1/2 doz of the arrows you are using now and keep them aside for hunting and use your older ones for practice - provided they are in good condition.
Remember practice is to make you a better shot. Shooting a lesser quality arrow is IMO defeating the purpose. |
Practicing with arrows other than what you will be hunting with is akin to practicing for the Daytona 500 with an Formula car.
If you want to switch then switch. The .1 GPI will is only going to get you .25 - 3 grains added weight and will not gain you a thing in KE or momentum. I will choose the straighter and more consistent arrow every time. |
Why is this such a baffleing question? I never said the newer arrows are a lesser quality, nor did I say that I would be useing my "better ones" for hunting.
The arrows I shoot cost $120 a dozen. A friend of mine is trying to sell some new arrows (name brand, still full length, un-cut) for a really good price. I was planning on getting a dozen of the ones I currently shoot now, but then this opertunity came up. I could help out a friend, and buy his arrows but I was wondering about POI. If these arrows are going to have a significant difference in POI,I would get the other ones. But if they would be comparable, why not kill 2 birds with one stone? |
I currently shoot an arrow with a straightness of .003 and weighs 10.5 gr per inch. I am looking into getting some new arrows (mostly for practice,) that have a straightness of .005 and weighs 10.6 gr per inch. Why is it so baffling that you received the answers that you did? We answered exactly what you asked. Yes, the POI will likely change if you change brands of arrows. |
ok, here's the thing buddy. =) i understand what you are saying and these guys aren't looking at what is best for you. the difference between those two arrows is miniscule and their poi will be very, very close to the same. you do need to check to make sure that they have comparable spine. but other than that they should be fine. And pleeeeeeeaaaaasee dont ever let someone tell you that practice is all about hitting the dot every time. you dont practice hitting that dot, you practice shooting your bow, your form. form is everything, and arrows have nothing to do with form. IMHO buy the arrows from your buddy, help him out, save some money, practice your form with them, feel GOOD when you robin hood one and shoot your good arrows when it really counts. hope this helps. =)
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ok, here's the thing buddy. =) i understand what you are saying and these guys aren't looking at what is best for you. the difference between those two arrows is miniscule and their poi will be very, very close to the same. What spine are the two arrows. Oh wait, we don't know that either. All we know is that his buddies arrows are heavier by .1gpi and more crooked than what he already has. If you don't offer up information that will allow people to give an informed answer then what do you expect? form is everything, and arrows have nothing to do with form. |
Originally Posted by kdtanner228
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ok, here's the thing buddy. =) i understand what you are saying and these guys aren't looking at what is best for you. the difference between those two arrows is miniscule and their poi will be very, very close to the same. you do need to check to make sure that they have comparable spine. but other than that they should be fine. And pleeeeeeeaaaaasee dont ever let someone tell you that practice is all about hitting the dot every time. you dont practice hitting that dot, you practice shooting your bow, your form. form is everything, and arrows have nothing to do with form. IMHO buy the arrows from your buddy, help him out, save some money, practice your form with them, feel GOOD when you robin hood one and shoot your good arrows when it really counts. hope this helps. =)
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Bigbulls,
I am not trying to start a argument with you. I see what you are saying and agree with you....somewhat. They are a "lesser quality" yes in the term that they are not as straight. I want to use them mostly for practice to keep my form in check. What I am running into now is I have robin hood 1 arrow and have started to shooting fletchings off (cuts your arrow supply short until I can make it to the shop). The arrows are the same dia. I did check that. The spine, I don't know...I will check into that. These are the questions I was hoping someone would bring up without scrutinizing me for asking this question. |
Next time post up all available information that you have, such as what arrows you are talking about, and you will get better answers. We can't help you if we don't know.
BTW, I wasn't scrutinizing you. I was giving you an honest answer based on what information that you posted. |
Originally Posted by bigbulls
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Next time post up all available information that you have, such as what arrows you are talking about, and you will get better answers. We can't help you if we don't know.
BTW, I wasn't scrutinizing you. I was giving you an honest answer based on what information that you posted. |
As was I. Another point to mention is if you are concerned about ruining fletcing, nocks, etc., shoot at targets with multiple bulls. This will eliminate your problem.
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Originally Posted by bronko22000
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As was I. Another point to mention is if you are concerned about ruining fletcing, nocks, etc., shoot at targets with multiple bulls. This will eliminate your problem.
Thanks to everyone for thier help. |
So, what arrows do you have and what arrows are you thinking about buying from your buddy?
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Originally Posted by bigbulls
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Really? What's the diameter of the two arrows? Are his current arrows fatter or skinnier than his buddies arrows. Don't know do you? And neither do we.
What spine are the two arrows. Oh wait, we don't know that either. All we know is that his buddies arrows are heavier by .1gpi and more crooked than what he already has. If you don't offer up information that will allow people to give an informed answer then what do you expect? Form means absolutely nothing with out a proper set up and arrows are a major part of a proper set up. Also a proper set up means absolutely nothing with out proper form. They go hand in hand. i hope you all find this as amazing as i did. |
Try that with a 300 spined Easton AXIS and then with out changing a thing shoot a Gold Tip 35/55 and then tell me that form is everything.
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To avoid damaging the arrows that you have , shoot at different spots on the target . You won't be busting arrows and ripping fletching ......
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Originally Posted by bigbulls
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Try that with a 300 spined Easton AXIS and then with out changing a thing shoot a Gold Tip 35/55 and then tell me that form is everything.
In many ways, you're way ahead of them. I can see both side of it though. If the spine and diameters are the same, there wouldn't be much difference in the POI. I also see where he's trying to go with this, and can understand his thought process. MOST shooters would notice very little difference in a .003 and a .005 straightness arrow. Some may see a little difference, but your "average" archer ain't gonna notice a whole lot of difference, especially when shooting FP's. Screw on some BH's and its a WHOLE different story, but w/ FP's, that difference isn't going to be that extreme in all honesty. As for arrows costing $120/dozen......:lmao:Call me cheap, but I ain't ever gonna pay that for a dozen arrows. I shoot CHEAPER arrows, but they also have good spec's, and I've shot more expensive arrows w/ similar specs and found that the arrows I shoot are just as good as the more expensive stuff, in some cases better. |
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hey dude i shoot with a big bunch of different weight, spine arrows for practice i do believe that it helps me be more accurate because when i can group a dozen of them at 20 yds in a 3 in group im good to go !!! and some time i clip a r h !!!!!!!! yehaaaaaa:party0005::groupwave::barmy:
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Originally Posted by OHbowhntr
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BB,
In many ways, you're way ahead of them. I can see both side of it though. If the spine and diameters are the same, there wouldn't be much difference in the POI. I also see where he's trying to go with this, and can understand his thought process. MOST shooters would notice very little difference in a .003 and a .005 straightness arrow. Some may see a little difference, but your "average" archer ain't gonna notice a whole lot of difference, especially when shooting FP's. Screw on some BH's and its a WHOLE different story, but w/ FP's, that difference isn't going to be that extreme in all honesty. As for arrows costing $120/dozen......:lmao:Call me cheap, but I ain't ever gonna pay that for a dozen arrows. I shoot CHEAPER arrows, but they also have good spec's, and I've shot more expensive arrows w/ similar specs and found that the arrows I shoot are just as good as the more expensive stuff, in some cases better. And I agree with other posters shoot at multiple bulls,it will help you learn better form,because its harder to hit that spot everytime when theres not a pile of arrows to aim at! |
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