Bow Speed
 

I'm new here to the forum and I haven't gon through all the post so I'm sorry if this is a repeat. My friend said that he had but has lost a chart that has all the fps lost by accessories put on a bow. ie. so many fps for a peep or so many fps for a d loop and so on. Does anyone know where I could find a chart like this.
Thanks

really? that would be neat to look at, sorry cant help ya but would love to see it!

unless you are a speed nut and just want it to shoot fast, speed should come 3rd behind accuracy and recoil (for lack of a better word). I love a bow that shoots lightning speeds, but for hunting purposes it is way over-rated. But if you find it I would be curious as to how much each thing does slow it down.

KLDAD06 I can not stand your arrogance and ignorance. For one I just put up a simple topic and you have to come on here and rip it apart. Another thing is that there are different products on the market, take Peep sights for examples. It might be nice when chooseing between two different types of peeps to know what the speed difference. I mean if I could have the information even a few more fps might be nice to gain.

Relax, tough guy. He's just trying to help.

Rough day at work or what?

STRING ACCESSORY SPEED LOSS
Brass Nock 2 - 4 fps
Peep Sight 3 - 6 fps
String Silencers 2 - 6 fps
E-Buttons 2 fps each
Rubber Peep Tube 6 - 10 fps
String Loop 1 - 3 fps (without brass nocks)
VibraBlocks 0 - 2 fps

sorry dwallac3, but if you have hunted very much at all you should know how much speed really affects hunting. Absolutely nothing. A bow that shoots 250fps kills just as easily as a bow that shoots 350fps. My point is that if you are new to hunting, speed should be the last priority.

yups, Quiet is my first :D

Hey, man, I agree with you. I was responding to his comment to you. He seemed a bit combative.

Sorry for the apparently confusing use of the quote function.

I don't consider myself a tough guy. It was just a simple question for my curiousity and to help me buy products. It just gets to me when I am reading post on forums and guys don't answer the question but say that your question is not important. Maybe people just want to know. It is all personal opinion any way if speed is important.

And Thanks bigbulls

Have any of you had a deer duck your arrow?? if you have bet you were pissed

NOpe :D Cause my bows are always very very quiet :D
Heck i have had to wait for other deer to leave after i shot them lol.

the way I look at it.The more speed you have coming from a bow you are going to have more vibration coming from it , along with hand shock etc etc. I personally would much have a bow that is quiet and nice to shoot than have one that has a tomuch noise.

Thank you. A quiet bow is by far more efficient in a real hunting scenario.

Dwallac. This is a forum and he gave you his opinion wether you like it or not. How are you going to be a you know what when someone is just trying to be a help you when they think your new to hunting. Way to make friends.

Check on this site..They have alot of info for all bows..
http://forums.mathewsinc.com/?sid=7a...9e9f28dd7e4113

all im goin say is that if your bow is shootn a 250 fps its quite fine..
i take a little more noise for 320-340 fps anyday when if ur shooting dicstances

Honestly if your shooting a bow that has arrow speeds of atleast 220 fps, you shouldnt have problems if its loud. If your shootin 300 fps and your bow is loud, by the time the deer hears it, he'll have an arrow through him anyways. That is if you are accurate

Not true. Sound travels at about 1,100 feet per second. If your bow shoots 300 fps, the sound your bow makes gets to the deer almost 4 times faster than the arrow. How important is that 3 or 4 fps saved by getting rid of your peep now? Not very....

The louder the noise, the more likely the deer will react to it.

This is true if you are shooting at a deer 300 feet away. If your target is say thirty yards away which is 90 feet, so this is true the deer would hear the sound about 3.5 times faster than your arrow got there, but this gives the deer .3 seconds to react to the sound before the arrow strikes him...also figuring in that by the time your bow snaps the arrow is already gone. so your shot is still deadly.

What was the question anywaz?

I have to agree with the op on your ignorance... If you know so much, than why in the hell would you say that recoil is the second most important thing that a bow has under accuracy??? You must be one of those guys:hit:

How many times has hand shock affected your shot??? Ill answer that for you... Unless you are anticipating the shot and jumping like you are shooting a shotgun, handshock has never affected one of your shots. You dont feel a darn thing until that arrow is long gone lol. I bet you have never shot a real target rig have you??? The most accurate rigs in the world have some major vibration and recoil but guess what... they slam the x's all day long.

You just keep shooting your bows with zero hand shock, while the op gets his question answered...:rolleyes:

To the OP:

Usually a typical peep and loop with make you lose 5fps max... I personally dont worry about it, but if you are wanting to squeeze every bit out, the G5 peeps are suppossed to be a bit lighter than a normal peep. Make your loops short and use thinner material as well, but likely you will only gain 1-2 fps maybe 3 at the most.

I'm not saying the shot's not deadly. I'm simply saying that there isn't a bow on the market that is so fast that a deer can't jump the string under the right circumstances.

For the record...... .3 seconds is a very long time for a deer to react to a noise in the woods. .3 seconds is enough time for me to react to a noise in the woods! More to my point, shave 10 fps off that and do your calculations again and see how little difference it makes.

A deer at a mere 15 - 20 yards away can react fast enough to the sound of a bow to completely drop far enough so that your arrow flies harmlessly over their back, regardless if you are shooting 200 fps or 300 fps.

There isn't a bow made that is faster than a deers reaction time.

I would like to thank all the guys who answered my question. And I have to agree with halfbakedi420. The point of my rebuttle to kldad was just to point out that this forum is to help people and answer questions. My question I thought was simple. All i wanted to know was how string accessories affect speed. I did not ask which is more important and I thought kldad was arrogant to jump in and say not to worry about it. and then everybody who joined in and agreed. I understand that everyone was trying to help and I thank everybody who is on my side. but still I was not trying to start a fight with anyone on here.

yeah im sure a city boy from NY would know this much about bow hunting. you must be one of them rich boys who hunts farmed tame deer. Yeah so everyone should listen to you. Damn i mean what do i know? Im some redneck from central illinois...oh and dwallace, sorry but straightarrow don't know **** and i apologize for contaminating your post...maybe get some humor out of this

All I am saying is that speed is not that important. If a bow shoots 300 fps then it takes 0.2 seconds and a bow that shoots 250 fps takes 0.24 seconds to travel 20 yds. There is not enough difference in speed to justify sound. And by the way a bow that has a lot of recoil is not enjoyable to shoot which is what you should be looking for out of a hunting bow. Something that you can shoot everyday and enjoy shooting it. I mean seriously how many guys do you know of that shoot 30-06 as target guns. It isn't fun. I was just trying to help a newby to realize that speed is not everything. Sorry for pointing that out.

Wow! A little defensive are we, Carl? You're obviously a simpleton so let me start with a little geography lesson, clearly you could use one. You can start by taking out a map of the United States. I'm from Upstate New York. You Know... That very large section of New York State directly north of Pennsylvania and directly west of Vermont? The part that is not New York City. The part that is responsible for more Dairy and Apples than just about every other state in the country. Do you know that part? Did you find it on the map yet? Did you even figure out how to unfold the map yet?

I currently live in a town with a population of less than 1,000 people. I do hunt on a farm, but that farm happens to raise cows, not deer.

I grew up in a town with a population of less than 5,000 people. On one side of my house was a dairy farm and across the street was a horse farm.

You're willingness to make so many ridiculous and ignorant assumptions about me based on the state that I live in leads me to ask you the same question you asked of yourself..... What do you know, Carl77?

dwallac3, I suppose we did hijack your post and I apologize. But I'm glad you got your answer.

I freakin love upstate! Its gorgeous up there. Hell, NY has so much open space.
That said, Bigbulls is 100% right, there isnt a bow on the planet that is fast enough to negate the dropping of a deer. They do it quick! Best bet would be to make it as quiet as possible, then fast.
And yes Drock, i think that had shock is important, although not nearly as much as people make it out to be. No one wants to practice with something that is unpleasent to shoot, and Practice is what everyone should be doing :D

Forum battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Ok did some research and talked to 2 different archery shopowners.1 is a Hoyt dealer and the other is a Mathews dealer.They both said about the same thing.You will about this much feet per second.

Peep 3 fps

single nock set 1 1/2 to 2 fps

double nock set 3 to 5 fps depending on size

string loop 3 or 4 fps

string silencers 6 to 10 fps depending on what they are.

These are average on what you are going to lose with most bow on th market today they told me.Hope this helps out a little.I tried to find a chart that showed what you would lose but no luck sorry dwallac

Sorry Im new to the X bows got my 1st yesterday
and trying to learn all I can about them.
the post above refers to speed .some of the things stated I dont even know what they are !!! But for the life of me I cant figger
out how a Peep sight can effect the speed of an arrow ??
Like I said First post and New to X-Bows .
Thanks

This isn't referring to cross bows. This is referring to compound bows.

But to answer your question, just about anything you put on your string, slows it down. The slower the string, the slower the arrow.

I don't know anything about cross bows so I'm not sure what you think of when you hear "peep sight", but on a compound bow, the peep sight is tied right into the bow string.

we already know you don't know anything... :poke:

My fault ..I misunderstood
But thanks for the answer

Of course... My mistake.