Arrow Spine .350 vs .405
#11
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Because their web-site says they shoot 70#!! TV Pro??? Drury, Kisky, Reeve, Potts, Lakoski...any of these sound familiar?? I'm sorry but I think these TV pros probably know more than you and I and probably more than our local Pro Shops!!!
Thanks for your positive help in answering my question..I think I will now go out and buy 3 dozen!!
Thanks for your positive help in answering my question..I think I will now go out and buy 3 dozen!!
How in the world are we supposed to know why shoot a setup with underspined arrows? You tune the freakin bow/arrow combo. Its that freakin simple. I mean who knows, maybe they set thier bow down to 60pounds?
Remember, you came here asking questions. People tried to help. So before you start getting smart with folks, remember, you haven't helped anyone. First you say, "your guessing they shoot 70pounds" now you say, thier website says they shoot 70pounds. Which is it?
Where is thier website?
#12
Fork Horn
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Hey man, I say have at it. Go buy yourself a dozen, maybe even three dozen.
Lee Lakosky--The Crush---Goods that kill...Mathews Reezan---29.5 draw--70#---Easton Flatline 400...all this according to BIG COUNTRY is underspined so go by 3 dozen and shoot like crap cause accuracy will go out the window!! Sound about right BC??
Thanks Again you are very helpfull!!!!!!!!!!
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As I recall I only got smart with you after you got smart with me in the post above!! This is a forum for Tech help..Thats why I asked how it will affect my arrow flight!! You gave nothing to me as I have gave nothing.. You gave a smart mouth answer!! Thank you for your help Big Country..
Lee Lakosky--The Crush---Goods that kill...Mathews Reezan---29.5 draw--70#---Easton Flatline 400...all this according to BIG COUNTRY is underspined so go by 3 dozen and shoot like crap cause accuracy will go out the window!! Sound about right BC??
Thanks Again you are very helpfull!!!!!!!!!!
Lee Lakosky--The Crush---Goods that kill...Mathews Reezan---29.5 draw--70#---Easton Flatline 400...all this according to BIG COUNTRY is underspined so go by 3 dozen and shoot like crap cause accuracy will go out the window!! Sound about right BC??
Thanks Again you are very helpfull!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't believe me, PM TFOX, bigbulls or take to a pro-shop, or better yet, learn something about tuning, and try to tune an underspined arrow and see what happens for yourself.
There are many reasons why the guy could be shooting fine with his setup. He could have 27" drawlength, he could be using 75gr tips. Or using heavy wraps. I mean who knows.
You come one here with very little data and wanting someone to explain why. What did you expect?
Last edited by bigcountry; 10-02-2009 at 01:20 PM.
#14
I totally agree with BC.
The clowns on TV are far from pro's and their main job is to sell you the crap their sponors give them.
But hey if you want to listen to them go right ahead. Just remember the guys on here tried to help you with common sense answers.
The clowns on TV are far from pro's and their main job is to sell you the crap their sponors give them.
But hey if you want to listen to them go right ahead. Just remember the guys on here tried to help you with common sense answers.
#15
Because their web-site says they shoot 70#!! TV Pro??? Drury, Kisky, Reeve, Potts, Lakoski...any of these sound familiar?? I'm sorry but I think these TV pros probably know more than you and I and probably more than our local Pro Shops!!!
Thanks for your positive help in answering my question..I think I will now go out and buy 3 dozen!!
Thanks for your positive help in answering my question..I think I will now go out and buy 3 dozen!!
Ok so if I do this everybody says I will be underspined...So when I look at the "pros" set-ups they have listed on their sites then they also shoot underspined...Why??
For instance one pro set-up I looked at shoots the Easton Flatline 400 with a .400 spine..I'm guessing this persons draw weight at 70# but their draw length is 29.5" and they shoot the Reezan..By the Easton Shaft selector that isn't even a recommended shaft and by what you all are telling me that would be under spined..so why shoot it then?? specially if your a TV pro??
For instance one pro set-up I looked at shoots the Easton Flatline 400 with a .400 spine..I'm guessing this persons draw weight at 70# but their draw length is 29.5" and they shoot the Reezan..By the Easton Shaft selector that isn't even a recommended shaft and by what you all are telling me that would be under spined..so why shoot it then?? specially if your a TV pro??
Why come asking questions if you already know all the answers????
Check out OnTarget2 or Archer's Advantage programs and see what they say??? Those are a couple of programs that the REAL PRO's use to help determine spine for specific set-ups!!!
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Check out OnTarget2 or Archer's Advantage programs and see what they say???
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Well, if you don't have the licenced version of either, they are fairly useless. Guess who has a licened version of both? Guess who took the time to run those numbers for you on both, to come to the same conclusion that I gave you?
You know the more I think about it, why do I even bother to try help guys like you?
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Well, if you don't have the licenced version of either, they are fairly useless. Guess who has a licened version of both? Guess who took the time to run those numbers for you on both, to come to the same conclusion that I gave you?
You know the more I think about it, why do I even bother to try help guys like you?
You know the more I think about it, why do I even bother to try help guys like you?
Bolton,
Again, there are some very knowledgeable guys here, that can and will help you, but when you come off like you did, you make them wonder why they help you sometimes. Take a step back and re-read what you post, it may save you a little wrath on occasion!!!
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It took me 5 years to finally figured out there was more to it. Then I got my browning excellerator. Great bow. In the area, they finally opened a bow shop. A guy behind the counter said "you need these arrows". They were 2216's. And I shot em. Things improved. Effective range 20-25yards with broadheads. Good day, 30 yards. Then ran thru a few PSE's. Went thru the carbon revolution. And finally some quality guides came out. Then the internet came. Changed everything.
There was no internet. There was no easton guide. Not even decent literature. We had one guy in a 100 mile radius who had a chart from easton. You had to work for the knowledge.
Now, a guy comes here, and instantly expects good reliable info and I bet he posted on other forums and got equally good info. Maybe even downloaded a test version of ontarget. Instant answer. No work for it or anything. And when he doens't hear what he wants. Well, he figures, lets be a jerk.
I am no expert. I don't work on bows full time like bigbulls or swampcollie and others. But I do know my own bows and friends and neighbors who bring them by to work on. And I do know the mathews outback.
Last edited by bigcountry; 10-03-2009 at 03:19 PM.
#20
Well maybe. But I remember back when I was a kid, and I didn't even know what spine was. I was lucky to hit a target at 20 yards with my whitetail hunter. I went to the local magic mart (kinda like a low brow Kmart) and picked up whatever alums they had.
It took me 5 years to finally figured out there was more to it. Then I got my browning excellerator. Great bow. In the area, they finally opened a bow shop. A guy behind the counter said "you need these arrows". They were 2216's. And I shot em. Things improved. Effective range 20-25yards with broadheads. Good day, 30 yards. Then ran thru a few PSE's. Went thru the carbon revolution. And finally some quality guides came out. Then the internet came. Changed everything.
There was no internet. There was no easton guide. Not even decent literature. We had one guy in a 100 mile radius who had a chart from easton. You had to work for the knowledge.
Now, a guy comes here, and instantly expects good reliable info and I bet he posted on other forums and got equally good info. Maybe even downloaded a test version of ontarget. Instant answer. No work for it or anything. And when he doens't hear what he wants. Well, he figures, lets be a jerk.
I am no expert. I don't work on bows full time like bigbulls or swampcollie and others. But I do know my own bows and friends and neighbors who bring them by to work on. And I do know the mathews outback.
It took me 5 years to finally figured out there was more to it. Then I got my browning excellerator. Great bow. In the area, they finally opened a bow shop. A guy behind the counter said "you need these arrows". They were 2216's. And I shot em. Things improved. Effective range 20-25yards with broadheads. Good day, 30 yards. Then ran thru a few PSE's. Went thru the carbon revolution. And finally some quality guides came out. Then the internet came. Changed everything.
There was no internet. There was no easton guide. Not even decent literature. We had one guy in a 100 mile radius who had a chart from easton. You had to work for the knowledge.
Now, a guy comes here, and instantly expects good reliable info and I bet he posted on other forums and got equally good info. Maybe even downloaded a test version of ontarget. Instant answer. No work for it or anything. And when he doens't hear what he wants. Well, he figures, lets be a jerk.
I am no expert. I don't work on bows full time like bigbulls or swampcollie and others. But I do know my own bows and friends and neighbors who bring them by to work on. And I do know the mathews outback.