Walk Back Tuning Help??
 

Ok here it goes.....

I am shooting from 10-20-30-40....all shots with 20 yard pin...

Rage Broadheads:
10- Dead Center (a touch high)
20- A Tad Left maybe 1/4"
30-4" Low---- 2" Left
40- 10" Low----3"+ Left

Slick Tricks 100Grn Magnum:
10-Dead Center
20-Low 2"----Right 2"
30-Low 12"-----Right 4"
40- I am not even going to attempt it??

It seems that no matter what I do wiht Rages I cant get them consisantly shooting dead on! Which way do I need to move the rest to get a happy medium? Is there something I am missing??

I am shooting a Martin Jaguar Magnum 28 1/2" draw 29" FMJ 340 Arrow with 100Grn Heads at 66lbs!!
Let me know whatcha think?

It could EASILY be a tourqing(sp!) issue as the level on my sight is no where near being center as it just feels unnatural, I feel like I am really tourqing the bow????

Don't walk back with broadheads,you will pull your hair out.Do it with field points.

Your spine should be fine.

I will group tune after that with a target setup but no reason you can't just move to broadhead tuning.

Straight from the Easton tuning guide.

Thanks TFOX I knew you would pull through for me!! I am reading over it now!
I will shoot some more tommorow and update then!!

Yep, switch to FP's. I've gotten away from doing the 10,20,30,40 thing and just shoot 10 and 40 anymore. I might shoot 10-30 the first time just to be sure I'm close.

Dan

The other thing you probably need to do is decide which broadhead you are going to shoot and stick with it.

Why exactly Dan and Todd are suggesting not to walk back with broadheads.... I'm not sure? But coming from them I'd be inclined to blindly agree. Personally I have always walk backed with FPs.... then walked back with BHs and had my groups hit together. I can tell you though that it is largely luck to have a FP, a long ferreled mech and a fixed blade all group together..... most of the people that claim this are either liars or bad enough shots that their 6" groups at 20 yards make them true prophets of bow tuning. Thats not the case with Dan or Todd of course, but when some redneck jumps on the net and talks about how great he is.... well.... draw your own conclusions.

Once you have determined centershot with fieldpoints,it might be OK to walk back with broadheads BUT,broadheads enter into the equation so much of their own problems that walk backing from the beginning might drive you insane.That is why I would go to broadhead tuning(fix and or/eliminate those problems) and then if you want,do a walk back after you are done.

Thanks guys! I tell ya the only reason I am even messing with the Fixed Heads are as a back up in case I need a follow up shot or for Coyote, Fox, Etc....

I am not expecting to get "exact" Field Point accuracy from them but am hoping to get it close enough for such an occasion? Its goofy because lastyear my Slick Tricks flew very similiar with my F-tips but I have changed everything on my set-up wince then though!! I will get it I do believe I was just hoping someone would post such info like you guys have to help me along!!

I will let ya's know how I fair tommorow!!

Thanks!!

Amen!!! Abolutely gonna make some hair be pulled out trying the way he was trying.

Ok well I went back out tonight and shot! I am now shooting as so....
10,20,30,40yrds

Field Tips:
10- 1"High
20-1/4" High
30-3" Low and a Hair Maybe 1/8" Right if that
40- 8-9" Low and also maybe 1/4" Right if that

and for those going "How can he tell an 1/8" difference".. if you fling enough arrows at the target it really does become evident of exactly where you are hitting, this is where the whole group shooting comes in handy!! It is key I believe to truely tuning your bow, but I do not have the courage to keep slapping arrows together!! I cringe everytime I hear that noise!!!

I'll be completely honest I did not move a thing, and figured I could get it closer at the 30-40yrds but I am completely happy with that little bit of change at those distances! I know it is probably not "the right thing to do" but I figured I couldnt even move the rest as small of an increment as I probably would need too!? I MAY try to get the change tommorow, but I am still not sure if it will give me the change I need anyhow??

Rage Broadheads:
10- 1/2" high
20- Dead Center
30- Same as Field tip
40- The best I can tell is about an 1/8" more right then the field tip!

Disclaimer: I have NO INTENTION of attempting a shot past 25yrds with a broadhead this year let alone 40 so I should be just fine with this set-up?!!

Slick Tricks:
10- Dead Center
20- 3" Low----1 1/4" Right
30-?
40?

I was starting to get shaky with my shooting and decided to give it a rest for the night! Ill play some more tommorow..!!

I will let you know how I am shooting tommorow!!

Also I am completely tickled as I was grouping arrows together tonight better then I have all year, it all kind of came together for me and it all felt great, the draw, the anchor, the release, the shot, everything was good!!!

So go ahead and move to broadhead tuning and I bet you will need to move the rest about a 1/32" to get them with fieldpoints.This is where a rest with fine micro adjustment comes in handy.Yet another reason I love the Whammy.

I will be looking into trying to move the rest tommorow when I shoot. I really didnt want to start moving stuff when my shoulders werent "fresh" if ya know what I mean! I shot enough just in the walk back method/field tip grouping!

I have the QAD LD it has micro adjustments, it is actually sitting between adjustments right now! I just didnt want to chance it and take it all out of whack after the time I have been having all year but I guess I can always move it right back, HOPEFULLY haha!!

I will update tommorow night!!

One more thing, I am certain I can get the Fixed Heads flying very similiar in left/right adjustment but I really dont know if I want to change the whole up/down adjustments, especially since I had one hell of a time trying to get the rest timed to begin with!!
I dont know if you remember all the timing issues I was having but I finally TIED IT IN(stupid clamp) myself and adjusted it until it was dropping perfect and it is FINALLY doing so, I really hate to move it and get right back to step one!!! Is there another option or am I fighting a losing battle??

You can move the nock point.

Awww...now were thinking!!
Thanks man!!

OK GUYS.....

I went back out yesterday and shot. I started off with getting my 40-50 yrd pins dialed in. In about ten minutes time I was nailing centers at 40 and then within an inch or so around 50! This was with Field Tips and Rages.
I then moved up to 20 in ten yard increments and was shooting some of the best arrows I have shot all year!!

This is the goofy part, I put on the Slick Tricks and was nailing bullseyes at 20 with 20yrd pin! I stepped back to 30 and was maybe 3"- 4" low with 30yrd pin?

I am done stressing over it. I plan on using the rages and will not be shooting past 25yrds anyway but just wanted to fill you guys in on the fact I think ALOT of my problems were ME!! I am finally getting comfortable with my anchor point and everything is just falling in place!!

Could I get it closer? Well Yeah I believe I could, but I am happy now but I do believe I learned alot for future set-ups on my bows!!

I wanted to say Thank You to all who have tried to help me through my shooting these past couple weeks!!