5shot- Montec vs. Stinger
 

I' m considering these two heads. I know you haven' t yet had an opportunity to fling the 4 blade stinger since it' s not out yet :) , but that' s the one I' m considering. For purposes of this discussion, let' s assume it performs as well as the 2 blade...

I like the fact that the montec can be easily resharpened on a flat stone (which I have). I think the blades would be easier/cheaper to maintain than the stingers (which would require a different sharpening apparatus or cash to purchase replacement blades).

In your experience, assuming whitetails and 60#s + of ke, is one superior over the other in flight characteristics, ease of tuning or penetration?

Which would you pick and why?

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Well I am not 5shot but I would like to add one thing. I shot the Montecs last year and they were the best shooting broadheads that I ever spun on the end of an arrow. I killed 3 deer with them also and they performed great. I was really sold on them when we screwed the same braodhead on three different arrows on three different setups (one was shooting around 306 fps) and they shot the same place the field points did for all of us. Two of the bows I set up myself so I wasn' t that suprised but the Black Knight low brace height version was not " tweaked" . It was shooting pretty good but not as good as it could have and it still stacked them.

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That' s encouraging.

What kind of performance did you get on the deer? All pass throughs? Any bone encountered? Nice big holes leaving easy to follow blood trails? How' d they hold up? Are they easy to resharpen?

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i am also interesting in those heads but they are kinda spendy arent they?

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silentassassin:

You' ve better be careful stating " they shot the same place the field points did for all of us." There are those on another thread, Arrow Flight with different broadheads vs. field points, that will definitely disagree with you.:D;)[>:]

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Range,

They held up real well. I killed two deer with the first one, both were complete passthroughs. The tip of the ferrule broke on the second deer because I dead centered a rock. I actually thought I missed because of all the sparks that flew. The second head that I killed one with is still on my arrows. I just sharpened it. It' s hard to say they penetrated better than anything else that I have ever shot but I was consistently suprised by how velocity my arrow still had after passing through all three deer. I have shot mechanicals for the last three years though. They were pretty easy to sharpen and the hole they left was comparable to that of a 3 blade muzzy or thunderhead.

pup,

They are spendy. I showed them to a buddy (with more money than me:D) because I thought they looked awesome. I went over to shoot with him one afternoon and he let me shoot one of his. After that I was sold. To me they are definetly worth it. That was the first time in my life that I felt like I was absolutely as accurate with a broadhead on as I was with a field tip. So the confidence level they gave me alone was worth the price. Opinions are always going to very. However, I definitely think they are worth buying a pack and deciding for yourself.

Len,

I am sure it was a fluke:D

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silent, how did you sharpen them? On a flat stone as Montec suggests? I know that magnus recommends the same thing, but I could never get the magnus three blades to sharpen to my likeness.

The angle on the blades was just too steep for me.

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Bobco, their website addresses your concerns. Use a flat stone, push straight forward method.

They also state that they went with 60* blade angles to hold up better in case of bone contact. Apparently from the success people are having with them, blade sharpness is not an issue...

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Bob Co,

I couldn' t get them to sharpen to my likeness on the flat stone either. I used a hand held Arkansas Stone. The blades are of a heavier material and seemed to me to be easier to sharpen than conventional blades.

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Well they are two differnt heads all together. Like you said I have not had the chance to try the 4 blade stingers yet, but assuming they do at least as well as the 2 blade versions I tried, I think it will be a toss up. The monotecs are excellent in every way. They can be sharpend with some time and a little " learning curve" . You can however break the blades. It takes a lot of punishment to do it, but it' s possible ( as with any broadhead). The stingers are every bit as accurate and well made, but come from the factory razor sharp. They are also a little easier to get a good edge on with the right tool, I use the " redi-edge" sharpner. You can also replace the blades as needed. On the downside the tips could curl up on a super severe impact with the stingers. ( this can happen with all cut on contact heads of this style). Again it would take a heck of a hit, and Magnus has made the tip stronger and less prone to this on the stingers. I really can' t and won' t say one head is better than the other, and I would feel confident using either. One thing Magnus has over G5 is the lifetime replacement policy. If you break a Magnus head they will replace it, period! I don' t know how much that means to you personaly, but it is somthing to consider.

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I heard that some of the Montecs that were sold year before last didn' t come from the factory " shaving sharp" . However, every package of Montecs that I shot or had a buddy that shot (about 6 packs) were Razorsharp right out of the box. As a matter of fact I debated on whether or not to " re-sharpen" the first one that I killed a deer with, before screwing it back on. I did go ahead and re-sharpen but it wasn' t necessary.

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Both are very good. The only problem I found was the screws coming loose on the Stingers when practicing. I therefore used some blue locktite to prevent this even on my hunting heads. I just don' t want to take the chance of having ' a screw loose' when hunting. :D:D

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But doesn' t hunting with davidmil count as hunting " with a screw loose" ??:D:D:D

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CG,

I think you have something there;):D

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I don' t think a guy could go wrong with either head. I haven' t killed anything with the stinger 4 blade but I have with the Magnus two blade...even used the guarantee of getting a head replaced when I bent a ferrule on one (to bad that guarantee doesn' t apply to human heads :D).

I have shot elk and deer with the Montec and was very pleased by it' s performance. Because the angle and design of the blade is a bit different on the Montec I feel sharpness can be somewhat deceiving if used as the ONLY measuring stick against other heads. Using some heads (for example Steel Force or Rocky Mountain Titaniums) the hair is easily shaved off ones arm. By comparison I would describe the Montec as cutting more so than shaving the hair off. However in the testing I have done the Montec penetrates every bit as well and I could tell no difference in performance (between the " super sharp" heads and the Montec) even after thorough examination of the animals harvested and their vitals that the head passed through.

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Yeh BUTT.... it gets you free guttin' and draggin' . Len takes care of me. He let' s me tag along and calls me when he gets blood on his arrows. Last year he wore out about 10 sets of batteries calling me. I found the solution.... call in sick some days and make him do it himself.

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Thanks all.

How do the flight characteristics compare?

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Len makes a good point about the stinger screws. I have not found it to be a problem, but anything that can come loose will, so I would follow his advice. I would also agree hunting with David would also constitute hunting with a screw loose, but he would look funny with loctite all over him:D
As for flight, I really can' t tell on bit of differnce with them. Both are very accurate with the right setup.

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I fondled the Montec first hand, pun intended, and was impressed. I' ll have to add these to my list of heads to test this summer. After close examination I' ve dropped the cut on contact NAP Razorhead from my list. A buddy of mine shot a few of these this weekend and the little bleeder blades broke. [:@] If they had a way to replace those like in the old Bear Razorhead, they might have something.[&:]

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That would be BLUE loctite.[8D]

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No need to turn blue over being locked tight David. Try some prunes or something. :D

I' m giving the Montecs a try this year. They fly great and seem to be holding up in the dirt butts.