arrow noise
 

Everyone speaks of having a quite bow; yer that is great and we all wish we had a totally silent one. What about the sound of the arrow as it cuts through the air. I recently acquired a new bow and the arrows are going much faster than the ones from the old bow. I did an experiment and got a friend to shoot the two and I stood behind a huge hay bail and listened to the sound of the arrows now I am convinced the reason for the deer jumping is not the "twang" of the bow, but the arrow "hissing". What do you all think and what can I do to solve the problem? Thank you in advance.
Bowtech 80#
carbon tech rhino's 28", blazers
100 gn muzzies
300+fps (approx)

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At 300 FPS I don't think Deer have time to hear your arrow, by the time they hear it it's too late. on the other hand bow noise is the main reason for Deer jumping the string.

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I agree with Glock. Deer have no time to react to arrow noise, it's the bow string at the shot they hear.

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Sorry guys trust me; its the arrow noise! I will see what other opinions I get, here or elsewhere.

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I have heard the hissing noise of an arrow in flight, nothing new. Shoot feathers if you want to hear a noisy arrow. I guess it's like Deer seeing color, or does scent lok clothing work... Every one has an opinion..
Take Care, and get out and Hunt.

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The reason I am asking is because I thought someone might have an idea, or experienced this before. We can hunt 365 days a year, I hunt most days, given not always deer. With 40+ years of actual hunting experience as a guide and outfitter, on deer. Unlike you guys that are limited by your short seasons, huge hunter numbers, etc. etc.. I suppose that is why "you" are lacking in actual hands on hunting experience? I have had other valid opinion expressed elsewhere if they prove to work I may share them on this forum?

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In my experience Deer don't react to arrow noise in flight. I use feathers and there isn't any fletching that makes more noise than they do in flight, but in 40+ years Bowhunting I've yet to have a deer react to it:D

Birds are always flying around. They make a little noise too![8D]

I think that type of noise is more natural in the woods than the recoil sound of a Loud bow. Now Deer will react to that!;)

Dan

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Wow! A little condescending don't you think?? I guess weignorant American hunters will have to wait to hear back from you once you've got the whole thing figured out.

I don't usually respond to posts in this manner, but...... Wow!!

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LOL, I was thinking the same thing. My 40+ years of hunting experienceis nothing. Damn, I think I'll take up Golf.

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then go elsewhere................

There are natural things, you know in nature, that make hissing sounds. I figure in your 40+ years of hunting you may have heard one or two. I haven't even been alive that long and I've heard them once or twice. On the other hand, i can't think on nothing in nature that sounds like ANY bow releasing. Buy i guess since I'm so inexperienced i really don't know what i'm talking about.

Don't come to a forum, ask an opinion, then tell the people that give there opinion that they are wrong. It obviously doesn't go over to well down here in the states...........

So go ahead and take your snotty attitude, with all your great outdoors experience elsewhere.

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the only time i hear an arrow flying is when a flight is loose and flapping or the broadhead is loose. but i only get to hunt archery is when archery season is in. IN MY 15 YEARS OF SHOOTING A BOW, THAT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. just my 2 cents. but maybe I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.

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two remarks,

You could try ans ask your buddy to shoot at you behind a haystack,at a reasonable distance. See if you hear the arrow coming or the firing of the bow and then try and duck or jump before it hits the target.
You might try that with a blunt point.....

Ever think that maybe those deer that jumped your string were in fact you missing your target completely........

I think your reply got you burned and now you smell funny, sorry........

Frank

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here is the deal, and its a basic principle law of sound travel.
at 300 FPS your arrow is going roughly 204 MPH, while this isnt breaking the sound barrier, it is fast enough to keep the arrow neck and neck with the sound at the ranges you are shooting. So hearing the arrow go by is very normal, wheras if you were to stand directly in the flight path (which i would not so much recommend) you would not hear the arrow.
another interesting phenomina is the wind moving past the arrow helps push sound further behind it.
but with string noise, it is a sound wave, that leaves the bow at the same time as the arrow, that doesnt have any other factor working against it. so it gets to the deer slightly before the arrow does, which is why we workto make our bows more quiet, more so than making our arrows quiter.

so in short, no arrow noise does not spook deer, it is a concept that has been visited and disproven in the past. but it was a good thing to discuss....now if only we could have asked the question more maturely

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IME any deer that is on high alert,and acting nervous is likely to jump at the slightest noise or movement. A calm deer on the other hand is likely to end up in the freezer. The hissing noise that you're hearing might be your broadhead. I'm only 43 yrs.old,so i don't have your hunting experience,but I know enough not to stand down range of an arrow.;)

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I was hesitant on shooting arrows with Qwik-Spin vanes as my son was shooting them at his camp . I could tell when he was shooting the Qwik-Spins as I was down range , elevated and off to the side of my son . I fletched a few and they flew great . I could hear them fly through the air from the side but have no idea of what they sound like down range . Minimal string noise .
I used them last season and shot a 6 point buck at 35 yards - double lung shot .

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I still welcome your opinions, as always. Try thinking outside the circle. Just because one opinion is bow noise does not mean everyone has to think that way, go do a few experiments and I welcome you to report back..........

P.S I shall disregard the last "snotty" remark;

"So go ahead and take your snotty attitude, with all your great outdoors experience elsewhere"

hopefully we can move forward from here now?

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so long as you don't ask a question and then tell everyone how wrong they are................

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Has anyone tested the new Easton Axis with nanu tubing? I heard somewhere that they are supposed to be quieter.

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IME the shaft is Not what makes the noise inflight that is being discussed here.

Dan

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Arrow noise can be a very big number of different things. Fletchings, arrow texture, and broadhead design. If you notice the cuts in broadheads, most are different in size and shape etc. and all make a different amount of sound imo. I think the rage mechanicals are kinda noisy as well, so there are quite a few different things to consider, IF you are trying to get rid of your noise.

Derek

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i suggest removing the voice box andtongue and tape your arrows mouth shut so it doesnt whistle, sing or hiss and tape its arms down so it doesnt flap. then as for the bow most bows sound like a rap from a hammer when fired so simply find the hammer and remove it...all noise problems solved... your welcome