NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

Guys...

I want to try a G5 peep (the blue one) BUT... I am having second thoughts about no bungee... I just keep seein the buck of a lifetime walking up and that peep turning...

That being said.. I know a TON of people use the peep without the bungee and I want to start on my new Iceman... I know its been written about but what can I do to BE SURE it won't happen. BTW - I use a D-loop also...

Thanks fellas...

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

Tom, Don't worry about it turning, BT makes good strings.Just use good BCY loop material, not the Walmart stuff, it's a lot stiffer.

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BCY ???

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Now I am just the opposite, I have never ever used one with a cord and never will. I have been using the Fletcher Tru peep ( the Super Hunter) for years now without a tube. I was always afraid of it getting caught on something while stalking, or when you are pulling the bow up in the tree etc. But my biggest all time fear was to drawing back on the trophy of a lifetime and the cord popping off or breaking.
With the great strings that are being offered today to eliminate it twisting, you should be just fine without the tubing.

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

Yeah. Ditch the tube. You'll never look back.

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For loop material alot of us buy from Catherine, AKA redhdcharm. She's been away on a medical leave and hopefully she'll be back soon. If not check e-bay.

Here's her thread.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2471478&mpage=16&key=&#34081 01

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

If tried it without, didn't like it, even with GOOD strings, I just didn't feel it came bag as perfect as a tubed peep did, so I went back to the "tubed" peeps on my set-ups. I use Silicon tubes which are far better than the old rubber tubes, and have had no problems with any of them in the several years I've been using them. I replace the tubing yearly or more often, so no issues of failure due to age.

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I wouldnt worry about it. I havent used a tube in... 7or8 years and have never had a horrifying experience or anything like that. Im really not 100% sure if The Iceman uses the same strings that Bowtech uses or not, but if so, you have yourself a really good set of factory strings that shouldnt have any problem at all being consistent.

Good luck

Derek

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I dont use a tube for my peep and l dont see myself ever going back. I agree, with todays strings, you will be fine.

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I'll never go back to a "bungee cord peep", either.

If you're shooting with a D-loop, twisting of the peep should absolutely not be an issue: once the d-loop and peep orientation is set, put a dab of clear cement (I prefer "Barge Cement" from Ace Hardware, but any similar glue-type compound, maybe even Elmers? would work) on each knot of the loop with some carryover onto the bow string and the D-loop should never twist again.

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I think the key to having a tubeless peep not rotate on you in the field is keeping it from twisting right from the get go.

The manner in which you nock your arrow is going to dicate whether you'll have issues or not.

You need to ensure that you lay your arrow in your rest FIRST, and the nock the arrow. You are going to establish flat spots on your string where you nock your arrow, and after about 50 arrows or so, they are there and set. Guys who use whisket buscuits love to nock the arrow and then rotate it down and into the quick shot slot.... and that is a big time no-no with a tubeless peep.

And FWIW... I've been using tubeless peeps for the past 5 seasons with zero issues.

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

ok... you guys are starting to convince me now...

Where can I get some of that BCY loop material if its that good.... may as well get the best... What is that stuff anyway ?

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I like the RAD Maxim 38 peep with Micro Tubing, tried various other stuff, Fletcher, No Peep, String Splitter, etc. Even top quality strings will wear over time and the peep will turn slightly. Not a chance i'm willing to take. The Micro Tubing is not 'loud' as some complain about standardpeep tubing and very little fps is lost at least not on my setup. If your shooting a high speed rig it maybe be an issue. Many complain about breakage of the rubber tubing. If you use the newer silicon stuff and change every couple years I don't see that happening. At least it hasn't happened to me and i've been bowhunting for over 20 years.

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Check out this listing. Five feet of material for $3.95. You can choose the color, even get different combinations that total 5'.

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-BCY-string-loop-release-string-d-loop-material_W0QQitemZ150345507251QQcmdZViewItemQQptZL H_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23014a61b3&_trksid= p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A 1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

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Ill second that

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The strings on the new diamonds are great! they changed the manufacturing a bit in the past coupla years i think. but you should be Good to go with a g5 meta. its a great peep. I put one on my Bow much to my chagrin... (shot peepless for so long, darn short axle bows) and it has performed great

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String material and quality isn't the only factor. Bow setup is also an issue. Guys that set my tribute up have it all hosed up. I have rotation problems (not to mention they had the dropway they installed timed all wrong).... not the strings fault, not the peeps fault, it was the techs fault...... He told me the sting would "learn" the new position with "coachin" from me (constantly rotating it to the right position. Just because they work in a shop doesn't mean they are gods of archery.

Hopefully I'm getting this corrected this month when i have Spot-On Archery make me a sting and tune up the bow.

If the peep is installed properly on good equipment you'll never have an issue.

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

Well I need help !! I got my bow, and my peep is twisted and thats what I was told - to "train it"... Im going to end up putting a bungee on it because I do not know how to install it

Can anyone tell me the PROPER way to install the peep so it will not twist ??

RE: NEVER USED A PEEP WITHOUT BUNGEE
 

I used to use a tube but hated it. Stretching a rubber band thats pointed right at my eye didn't seem too smart. Since ditching the tube I have had zero issues and will never use one again.

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I just switched to a regular peep when I bought my Iceman. I'm glad I did. Lot less hassle.

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Put some shots thru your bow the way it is, 50 or so, then have the peep tied in again. Should take care of your problem.

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It still amazes me as to the number of archery guys and gals out there that still use a peep with a tube. With the quality strings that are out there now, custom and OEM, there
is no excuse to use a peep and tube. Ever see someone that got hit in the eye with a broken tube? Go without the tube.......you'll never look back!!!

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Ditto!!

You go to a tubeless peep you will never go back.

Dan

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Yeah, have to say that there aren't may that use a tube these days...that said it still gets it done. I've used one, it worked, but was always scared it'd break on a cold morning. So...shot a peep...one that split the string 3 ways. It work pretty well too but have to say there was always a nagging question if it'd come back right at crunch time. It did just about everytime...but the question remained....everytime. Got older...eyes got worse, so have been shooting a timberline "no-peep" w/ both eyes open. Cant say I've lost any accuracy. It gets the job done here on the east coast (way less than 50yrd...more like 20). Even the other day when the no peep went way outta whack (1st time in maybe 8yrs)I still kept everything in a 2" dia. out to 30yds just drawing naturally. So w/ a no peep if it shears off/breaks...no matter. So long as I draw naturally...I'll hit what I'm aiming at out to 30-40yds. It doesn't get more reliable than that..which is why I've stuck with a no peep. ITs an alternative....just not for everyone. Options are good.......