A little help please
04-07-2009, 11:00 AM
#1
Fork Horn
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A little help please
Due to scar tissue in my eye I've become near sighted, I hate wearing glasses hunting and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for sights that would bring the target in clearer out around 20 to 30 yards. thanks for any input 
04-07-2009, 03:10 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: A little help please
There are a variety of options available.
First, there are several sights that are adaptable with lenses ranging from 2x to 6x and probably even higher.But that may or may not be the answer. Scopes, sights for scopes and lenses are big money, and there is no point spending it if that isn't going to fix anything.
The first thing I would try is a verifier. You'll need a special peep sight that is made by Specialty Archery Products. They come in a variety of sizes. The inside of the peep housing is threaded, so you can screw in a host of different lenses or just simply apatures to suit your eye sight. A SAP peep sight runs about $25, and verifiers (which come in many different powers/clarities just like eye glasses do) typically will set you back $30.
What a verifyer does is allow you to focus clearly on BOTH the target and your sight pins. Imagine making the image 2-D instead of 3-D. The target sometimes appears to be a bit farther away with verifyers, but it is crystal clear. You just have to try a couple different colors (which is how they specify which lens is which power) and see what works best.
Now, the other option for screw-in apature lenses coincide with scopes... and those are clarifiers. When you use a lens in your sight, the target is going to apear fuzzy... sort of likereading something through a magnifying glass held too far away from the page. The clarifier works are the second part of that system to bring the whole picture back into focus, and at 20 yards with a 6x scope I can read the date on a quarter. It is definately not something I would really want for hunting.... I'd probably consider a 2x if the verifier doesn't work for you.
First, there are several sights that are adaptable with lenses ranging from 2x to 6x and probably even higher.But that may or may not be the answer. Scopes, sights for scopes and lenses are big money, and there is no point spending it if that isn't going to fix anything.
The first thing I would try is a verifier. You'll need a special peep sight that is made by Specialty Archery Products. They come in a variety of sizes. The inside of the peep housing is threaded, so you can screw in a host of different lenses or just simply apatures to suit your eye sight. A SAP peep sight runs about $25, and verifiers (which come in many different powers/clarities just like eye glasses do) typically will set you back $30.
What a verifyer does is allow you to focus clearly on BOTH the target and your sight pins. Imagine making the image 2-D instead of 3-D. The target sometimes appears to be a bit farther away with verifyers, but it is crystal clear. You just have to try a couple different colors (which is how they specify which lens is which power) and see what works best.
Now, the other option for screw-in apature lenses coincide with scopes... and those are clarifiers. When you use a lens in your sight, the target is going to apear fuzzy... sort of likereading something through a magnifying glass held too far away from the page. The clarifier works are the second part of that system to bring the whole picture back into focus, and at 20 yards with a 6x scope I can read the date on a quarter. It is definately not something I would really want for hunting.... I'd probably consider a 2x if the verifier doesn't work for you.
04-07-2009, 03:16 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: A little help please
The shot placement is suspect, but this is pretty much exactly what you might expect tosee when you find the right verifyer for you. Ordinarily, you'd either focus on your target (which is what I do) and you're pins will appear fuzzy... or you'll focus on your pin and your target will be only a rough outline (like the way you shoot a rifle with iron sights).
This is how most of us see our target when shooting... clear target.... fuzzy pins.
This is exactly how it looks (to me anyway) when you have the proper verifer installed.
I can tell you this much too.... that if you are wearing glasses, they aren't going to work with a verifier. Some shooters that are near sighted can use them..... others can't. Thats why you just have to experiment and see what works.
This is how most of us see our target when shooting... clear target.... fuzzy pins.
This is exactly how it looks (to me anyway) when you have the proper verifer installed.
I can tell you this much too.... that if you are wearing glasses, they aren't going to work with a verifier. Some shooters that are near sighted can use them..... others can't. Thats why you just have to experiment and see what works.
04-08-2009, 05:07 AM
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RE: A little help please
One other point to add to SC's great advice.
Use an adjustable Dovetail sight bar. These are sights that have an adjustable distance (closer or further) from the riser, basically extending the focal length. This actually may be all you need to fix the problem, if not they may make a lower power varifier work correctly.
Toxonics and SPott Hogg are the two companies that come to mind quickly. Cobra makes some short ones, but not really enough to make a big difference. When I shot the circuit I had a custom made bar that I attached my sights to. I had 20" of adjustability and that is how I was able to shoot without my glasses. I am nearsighted and have astigmatism of my right eye, that makes it focus at a different focal length.
Anyway, just thought this may help you bring things into focus. Now, this alone won't give you the clarity that lenses may, but I don't want lenses or a peep evenon on my hunting rigs and it gave me "enough" clarity to shoot just fine without a peep. Experimenting wth the distance from the eye to the sightis huge when dealing with this problem.
Lastly, and importantly....this will add clarity ONLY to the pins, not the target. If target clarity is the only issue then the SAS is what you will need.
Use an adjustable Dovetail sight bar. These are sights that have an adjustable distance (closer or further) from the riser, basically extending the focal length. This actually may be all you need to fix the problem, if not they may make a lower power varifier work correctly.
Toxonics and SPott Hogg are the two companies that come to mind quickly. Cobra makes some short ones, but not really enough to make a big difference. When I shot the circuit I had a custom made bar that I attached my sights to. I had 20" of adjustability and that is how I was able to shoot without my glasses. I am nearsighted and have astigmatism of my right eye, that makes it focus at a different focal length.
Anyway, just thought this may help you bring things into focus. Now, this alone won't give you the clarity that lenses may, but I don't want lenses or a peep evenon on my hunting rigs and it gave me "enough" clarity to shoot just fine without a peep. Experimenting wth the distance from the eye to the sightis huge when dealing with this problem.
Lastly, and importantly....this will add clarity ONLY to the pins, not the target. If target clarity is the only issue then the SAS is what you will need.
04-08-2009, 05:13 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NW OHIO
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RE: A little help please
nice info swamp - i just screwed my left eye up monday,which has left me with little sight in my left eye. (im a lefty) so this is bad. sounds like ill be experementing with these types of things once i heal up - got any links ?