Well the Admiral has Finally Arrived
 

Well I got the call last Monday from the shop that my LH Admiral had finally arrived after 8 weeks of waiting and some phone calls. Couldn't go to pick the bow up until Saturday due to being away at school so I had to wait a few more days. Well I got to the shop and he had it all set up with accessories listed below in my signature and set at 28.5 inches and maxed out at 64 pounds and the first pin sighted in at 20 yards. Shot the bow a few times loved it but the cams really gain the last 5-10 pounds right at the end and after just a few shot I had to drop the weight down and down some more. I ended up around 52 pounds. Why you may ask well that is what college life (sitting around lazily listening to professors) and the inability to shoot your bow because the university won't let you have weapons in campus dorms will do to ya. I also think this is due to the change is cam styles from my previous bow. So then after that we ended up dropping the draw length down to 28 because I felt my arm was over extended and not bent at the elbow at full draw causing me to be less stable. The first and only problem with the Admiral was encountered with the adjustable draw stop at this point which is moved to adjust the feeling of the wall. Well bowtech put a Allen wrench head on the bolt which easily stripped out and the shop owner has had this happen on several occasions. So he got the dremel tool out and cut a groove so he could get a screw driver on the bolt then he could replace it with another he had from another bow. After all was said and done with that issue we tied in the peep and I shot a few more times to make sure everything else was ok. I was shooting very accurately and consistently from 20 yards. I loved the lack of vibration and noise from the bow. My friend came along with me too and I said "listen tell me what you hear" well I think he was a little surprised when I shot. He said well all I really could hear was the realease making noise and then the arrow hitting the target. The admiral and it's other CP friends has got to be some of the quietest bows to shoot from all the bows for 2009. I am glad I finally was able to pick it up I have been dreaming about my admiral for many weeks. Now onto accessories. Flashpoint sight I highly reccomend giving it a try. Picks up plenty of light inside if not the best lighting conditions and also on a sunny day with the ground covered in snow reflecting all kinds of light the cover over the fiber optics darkens so the pins are not overpowering with brightness. The ripcord rest Excelent rest and contains the arrow for hunting purposes no more grabbing the bow and holding down the arrow so it doesn't fall off the rest. I had no problems with clearance shooting blazers. I really liked the Octane stabilizer as well although the bow doesn't really need any weight up front to make it feel better in the hands what little vibration was there before is now really gone. I haven't got to shoot it much because I live in Ohio and don't have my own personal indoor range and it was really cold for me this weekend also had 4 ft drifts in the back yard making it hard to get out and around. Don't have pics right now but will try and get some next weekend and post them for all to see. Possibly with flashpoint when effected by lighting conditions as well.

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Glad you finally got your bow!-

Yep that late peak will take some getting used to

I noticed that about the draw stop screw- in fact I thought I had stripped it as well. Def needs changing to something more rugged.

Who makes the flashpoint sight?

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black gold makes the flashpoint sight. They came out with a new model right after I bought my bow as well that has hand adjustment instead of using an allen wrench.

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nice - i got a call on thursday last week that mine was in here ! i havent picked it up yet but that makes me nervous about the late peak i went from 60# to 70# so ill be in for some gettin used to !

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Make sure your draw length is not too long. Once it's set correct you'll adjust to the Draw quickly.

Dan

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congrats hope ya love it!!

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MeanV2

Yeah I had to adjust my draw length. We started out at 28.5 and 64 LBS went down to 28 and about 52 Lbs. Once I shortened the draw length it was much easier to pull the bow and get past the peak. Odd how I went from a 29 in. draw on my previous bow to a 28 on the admiral. I haven't shot it a whole lot because after the first couple long draw length/heavier poundage shots my shoulder started to get really sore at the shop and I haven't been home to shoot it. Just to show how out of shape I am from school. Those CP bows sure do take a whole lot of turns to get the bows from peak weight down to a lower poundage though.

JeffB

Once you get the screw out once if you don't super tighten it down it is much easier to move. For some reason also the demo bows that were sent out their screws are much easier to get out. The ones put on production bows seem almost like they have loctite on them.

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Lefty, That is one of the biggest problems I see day in day out. Guys shooting too long of a draw length, knowingly or unknowingly.
I can easily shoot a 28.5" to 29" on a target line, but in a hunting situation many times that extra draw length will cost you. When out of position, sitting, twisting, kneeling, that long draw length is harder to manage. I now shoot 28" and have never shot better.
I'm sure your draw length has Not changed, but the Admiral just magnified the fact you were a tad long.

It's amazing how much difference a 1/2" to an inch can make!:D

Dan

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Yeah 28.5 just felt unnatural but that half inch to 28 made a big difference. Now I just need to start shooting more so I can get my draw weight back up to where it should be.

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Congrats on the Bowtech. ;)

Draw length is the single most important thing to get right on a bow, but for some reason, the most overlooked and abused spec. I can't even begin to tell you how many guys at my local shop are too long, some grossly too long. I can't wait to see some of these "long draw" archers start shooting these new super short brace height bows coming out.

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Yeah that would be fun. I shot the hyperlite by mathews and the DL was a little long well guess what happened. Forearm was all purple/red/blue and then to yellow/green after about 3 weeks. Nasty bruise lasted a good 4-5 weeks. The hyperlite isn't really a speed bow and it doesn't have a really short BH but it sure put a slapping on me.

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i too just started settin up my admiral. it came at 29" so i went to 30" right away as thats what my tomkat was at and it feels HORRIBLE.how do you get an exact on measurement on your drawlength ?As prevously stated boy when you get to the top of the draw on this thing its intense ! mines at 71# thats def. gonna be turned down a bit till the times right. Also even as "steep" as it is once i ggot iinto the overdraw or valley or whatever the tech term is its very very comfortable, more so even than my tomkat.

i have a feeling i may be one of the squids thats got too long of DL !

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Best way to get an idea of your Draw length is to have your wing span measured Middle finger tip to middle finger tip with arms held out, measuring across your back,and divide by 2.5

That will get you very close, better to err toward the short side especially for hunting situations.

Dan

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Yeah mine wingspan was measure and it was around 28.5-29 in. we went down to 28 even with the admiral. If you get it close to where you want it you can do some minor adjustments with the draw stop to get an almost exact fit to your liking. I do love the valley on the admiral I can stand there and hold the bow drawn back for quite a while. Boy though that thing wants to go when you try and let out of it slowly.

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That's when it's nice that you have an adjustable mod and draw stop right there on the Cam.

Sweet!!:D

Dan

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wow i just did the math and my wingspan was 70 3/4 which is roughly 28.5. ive always pulled 30 ! ? :eek: boy was i off ! every time i think im fairly aquainted with bows and bowhunting i find out ive been doin the most trivial things wrong !

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And another thing guys , has anyone heard anything about the QAD Ultra Rest having issues with the bus cables ?I think in light of my findings im gonna go to 28" ( i ususally have a tie in d lool which will put me about where i need to be. do you see any problems with going 27 1/2 " and beig a touch short , how does this help in hunting stuations?

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In hunting situations you are not always standing up straight at a target line. You may be twisted, sitting, kneeling, etc.

IMHO it is easier to repeat your form with a draw length a tad short rather than a Tad long.

Dave start with 28" with a loop and see how it feels. You can always change to 27.5" or 28.5"for a while and see how it feels. That's the Great thing about the rotating mod and draw stop. With a little patience and time shooting you should be able to dial that draw length into the length that's perfect for you.

IMHO opinion and experience the Limb Driver is the best dropaway on the market and with the new capture launchers they are even more attractive for hunters.

Dan

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i have an admiral. just a couple questions moving the draw stop does exactly what. will it give u a bigger valley? and how far should u move it there are a lot of holes. i notice that mine seems to have less of a valley than the one i shot before. as soon as the string starts to move forward mine want to go. if u move it what are u looking for? the timing i am also a little confused on. the pro shop told me as long as i dont feel a double wall i am timed in good.

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Seraphhhc

you can adjust the valley length by moving the draw stop in the opposite direction of the cam movement when drawing back so that the draw stop hits the cable later. This can also slightly change your draw length some though too. If your draw length was shortened and the draw stop wasn't then that would effect the valley causing it to be less. It would have the other effect if draw length was made longer. causing your valley to be bigger or longer whatever is the proper terminology. If you do move the draw stop be careful so you do not strip out the allen head though it is a fairly weak bolt head and can stip easily. Just adjust the draw stop until the valley feels like you want it and at the proper draw length you want.

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how do u know what to far is. i read somewhere that u do not want to go to far

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the book says not to go farther than an 1" either way. and ive been told that the cam timing shouldnt be fine tuned until around 200 shots. whether or not thats true i duno im no pro either.

Never

move post more than 1/2 mark from

factory settings.

Doing so will effect

performance, let-off and draw length.

Post adjustment incorporates all the

settings necessary for BowTech models

using the Binary Cam.

--- thats right out of the manual

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Def read the manual AND download the draw stop setting chart before messing around with the draw length. While the new Bowtechs look to have a "backup" cable stop machined into the cam (I'd contact the BT guys here or BT proper to make sure), word is binaries can lock up at full draw if over-rotated. The draw stop should be placed at the proper position for your draw length (per the chart) and then you can move it back and forth slightly (it slides back and forth on the allen screw) to adjust your valley/letoff.