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englum_06 01-23-2009 11:29 PM

**So, How's my form? UPDATED** PG 1
 
Haven't posted one of these for a long time! With my new bow, I feel a heck of alot more comfortable shooting it.

How does it look?







The only thing I want to point out, is if it seems I'm leaning back, I really don't think I am- I'm just scrawny, and so my shirt pulls back when I draw giving it the look that I'm leaning.


Didn't really change anything, just took another picture wearing a beater instead of a sweatshirt. I figured it would help clear up the lean/shirt issue.


What do you think?


m9a9g9i9c 01-24-2009 10:02 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
I think there's too much tension on the tubing of your peepsight, it looks like it's pulling on the string. And you need to change your handposition on the bow, no fingers sticking out. Try to rotate your hand with your elbow sticking out horizontally, in this little youtube movie, you'll have to watch untill 2.54min, the chubby guy has a perfect grip in my opinon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIXZi2JXEW8

hope this helps,

Frank
Belgium

TFOX 01-24-2009 11:42 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
You are leaning,or you have your hips pushed forward,(the 2nd pic clearly shows it)it is not just your shirt.They don't come any scrawnier than me and I don't look like that.


Work on it in front of a mirror,it will feel like you are leaning forward at first but you will get used to it in short order.


OHbowhntr 01-24-2009 08:39 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
I ain't no pro by any means, but I think it looks pretty decent. I don't see anything wrong with keeping the fingers extended like that if it reminds you not to "grip" the bow but rather let it rest in your hand.

TFOX 01-24-2009 08:43 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
The fingers extended creates tension which is never a good thing.An open hand with tension creates more torque than a closed hand without tension.


The biggest issue I see is that there are a couple different grips in the pics.

TFOX 01-24-2009 08:44 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
[:@]

drockw 01-24-2009 10:31 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: TFOX

You are leaning,or you have your hips pushed forward,(the 2nd pic clearly shows it)it is not just your shirt.They don't come any scrawnier than me and I don't look like that.


Work on it in front of a mirror,it will feel like you are leaning forward at first but you will get used to it in short order.


Lol!!! You aint lyin[:-]

englum_06 01-24-2009 11:00 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: TFOX

[:@]

Dang TFOX, didn't mean to make ya mad, buddy- lol.

So I messed around with the "leaning" a bit, and you're right, I feel like I'm leaning forward alot- but I guess if that's how it's supposed to be then I'll keep doing it and make myself get used to it.

The Rev 01-25-2009 07:37 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: drockw


ORIGINAL: TFOX

You are leaning,or you have your hips pushed forward,(the 2nd pic clearly shows it)it is not just your shirt.They don't come any scrawnier than me and I don't look like that.


Work on it in front of a mirror,it will feel like you are leaning forward at first but you will get used to it in short order.


Lol!!! You aint lyin[:-]
I wouldn't be using that pic for an example; He's got a death drip on the bow :D.

TFOX 01-25-2009 08:34 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
My grip is a closed but relaxed grip.I can't use the prefered grip by many because it causes pain in my hand if I do.So I have found a happy medium that doesn't cause any torque.;)


TFOX 01-25-2009 08:37 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 


ORIGINAL: englum_06


ORIGINAL: TFOX

[:@]

Dang TFOX, didn't mean to make ya mad, buddy- lol.

So I messed around with the "leaning" a bit, and you're right, I feel like I'm leaning forward alot- but I guess if that's how it's supposed to be then I'll keep doing it and make myself get used to it.
Didn't make me mad,just fighting this darn site while they work the bugs out.[&:]

FSUBIGMAC 01-25-2009 11:45 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
wow you are right FOX-- there isn't much scrawnier than that. Looks like my left leg at full draw HAHAHA

arrows flinger 01-25-2009 12:34 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06


The only thing I want to point out, is if it seems I'm leaning back, I really don't think I am- I'm just scrawny, and so my shirt pulls back when I draw giving it the look that I'm leaning.
i know what you mean

BGfisher 01-25-2009 12:57 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: TFOX

The fingers extended creates tension which is never a good thing.An open hand with tension creates more torque than a closed hand without tension.


The biggest issue I see is that there are a couple different grips in the pics.
You are very observant. I didn't catch this as I didn't look close enough. Very good young man. From what I can see his hand position (I hate the word grip) in pic #3 looks pretty good. I noticed the leaning too, and it doesn't appear to be draw length. As you said, just pushing the hips front, too much weight on the rear foot.

Frankly, his form isn't bad at all except for those couple things.

englum_06 01-26-2009 08:41 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: TFOX


ORIGINAL: englum_06


ORIGINAL: TFOX

[:@]

Dang TFOX, didn't mean to make ya mad, buddy- lol.

So I messed around with the "leaning" a bit, and you're right, I feel like I'm leaning forward alot- but I guess if that's how it's supposed to be then I'll keep doing it and make myself get used to it.
Didn't make me mad,just fighting this darn site while they work the bugs out.[&:]
Tell me about it. It's starting to get a little frustrating sometimes.

englum_06 01-28-2009 08:10 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
Wow, everyone just give up on me?

Mikey S. 01-29-2009 05:56 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
Nah...:) You want to get your upper body straight. It will feel like you're leaning forward at first, but you'll get used to it. You want your weight distributed evenly to both feet. Play with your stance, make it comfortable. I like my feet placed just slightly wider than my hips. Standing straight up may alter your anchor point slightly, you may need to fine tune your peep location once you get settled in your form.

If you can, go shoot at an indoor league someplace. Find the good shooters, and have them work with you. You're very close to nailing it down. Keep the tension out of the grip, don't lean back, and keep you back elbow up where it is, and things will fall in place.

And don't forget the follow thru, it's got just as much to do with form as anything. Squeeze the trigger, focus on the target, don't take your eyes off of it till the arrow hits, and let the bow do what it wants after the release. Don't lower that bow down till after you hear that arrow hit. And don't look for that arrow in flight!! Worst habit to get into!


ORIGINAL: englum_06

Wow, everyone just give up on me?

englum_06 01-29-2009 06:46 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: Mikey S.

Nah...:) You want to get your upper body straight. It will feel like you're leaning forward at first, but you'll get used to it. You want your weight distributed evenly to both feet. Play with your stance, make it comfortable. I like my feet placed just slightly wider than my hips. Standing straight up may alter your anchor point slightly, you may need to fine tune your peep location once you get settled in your form.

If you can, go shoot at an indoor league someplace. Find the good shooters, and have them work with you. You're very close to nailing it down. Keep the tension out of the grip, don't lean back, and keep you back elbow up where it is, and things will fall in place.

And don't forget the follow thru, it's got just as much to do with form as anything. Squeeze the trigger, focus on the target, don't take your eyes off of it till the arrow hits, and let the bow do what it wants after the release. Don't lower that bow down till after you hear that arrow hit. And don't look for that arrow in flight!! Worst habit to get into!


ORIGINAL: englum_06

Wow, everyone just give up on me?

Alright! Thanks alot man!

ijimmy 02-04-2009 06:50 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
Not good , Your grip has been addressed above , you are leaning way back , and your release forearm is pointing toward the ground , it should be in line with your arrow shaft

OHbowhntr 02-04-2009 09:34 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: ijimmy

Not good , Your grip has been addressed above , you are leaning way back , and your release forearm is pointing toward the ground , it should be in line with your arrow shaft
Actually looking at the "wife-beater" shirt pic, he doesn't look like he's leaning back to me at all. Leaning WAY back is a bit of an exaggeration. Overall it looks like pretty good form, but what's most important really is where does the arrow go!!!!! TFox for example has a bit of a form flaw with his grip, but he's a pretty accomplished archer by mosts measurements. I don't think you have to have PERFECT form to be a good archer. You may need decent form, but perfect form isn't a requirement. Overall, it looked pretty good, as I stated before.

And both you "scrawny" guys need to eat more!!!!

englum_06 02-04-2009 11:58 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: ijimmy

Not good , Your grip has been addressed above , you are leaning way back , and your release forearm is pointing toward the ground , it should be in line with your arrow shaft
LOL WOW!!! I don't even know what to say.

How do you figure? Maybe your head is tilted toward the ground.

englum_06 02-05-2009 12:05 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: ijimmy

Not good , Your grip has been addressed above , you are leaning way back , and your release forearm is pointing toward the ground , it should be in line with your arrow shaft
Actually looking at the "wife-beater" shirt pic, he doesn't look like he's leaning back to me at all. Leaning WAY back is a bit of an exaggeration. Overall it looks like pretty good form, but what's most important really is where does the arrow go!!!!! TFox for example has a bit of a form flaw with his grip, but he's a pretty accomplished archer by mosts measurements. I don't think you have to have PERFECT form to be a good archer. You may need decent form, but perfect form isn't a requirement. Overall, it looked pretty good, as I stated before.

And both you "scrawny" guys need to eat more!!!!

Hey thanks for the tips man!

You are right in saying that all that counts is where the arrows go. I'm confident enough in my shooting that I don't shoot at the same spot twice any more. Ive only been shooting for a year but I've got two robin hoods and blew the knock-ends off on three other arrows. I learned that I didn't like replacing my XT's that often.

And trust me, I eat, and eat, and eat,and eat. I just can't putany mass on, lol.

early in 02-05-2009 03:45 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06


ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: ijimmy

Not good , Your grip has been addressed above , you are leaning way back , and your release forearm is pointing toward the ground , it should be in line with your arrow shaft
Actually looking at the "wife-beater" shirt pic, he doesn't look like he's leaning back to me at all. Leaning WAY back is a bit of an exaggeration. Overall it looks like pretty good form, but what's most important really is where does the arrow go!!!!! TFox for example has a bit of a form flaw with his grip, but he's a pretty accomplished archer by mosts measurements. I don't think you have to have PERFECT form to be a good archer. You may need decent form, but perfect form isn't a requirement. Overall, it looked pretty good, as I stated before.

And both you "scrawny" guys need to eat more!!!!

And trust me, I eat, and eat, and eat,and eat. I just can't putany mass on, lol.
It's called high metabolism!:DI have it too, and you know what? You'll live longerbecause ofit.;)

OHbowhntr 02-05-2009 07:21 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: englum_06


Hey thanks for the tips man!

You are right in saying that all that counts is where the arrows go. I'm confident enough in my shooting that I don't shoot at the same spot twice any more. Ive only been shooting for a year but I've got two robin hoods and blew the knock-ends off on three other arrows. I learned that I didn't like replacing my XT's that often.

And trust me, I eat, and eat, and eat,and eat. I just can't putany mass on, lol.
Pat,
Just teasin' ya a little, it'll all work out in time, I had a hard time gaining weight until I had money to eat, and a job that stopped me from being "on-the-go" all the time, now I'm just plain FAT. :D A couple RH's for a guy only shooting a year is pretty good, LOTS of guys will shoot MANY years before they ever shoot one, and many more will NEVER shoot one. Now try to stay away from shooting groups too much, so it saves you a little money. But seriously, the form looks pretty good, and again, it "doens't have to be PERFECT to be a good archer."

Matt/TN 02-05-2009 09:11 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
You will see a LOT of pro's with this grip right here.





TFOX 02-05-2009 01:46 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 

ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

You will see a LOT of pro's with this grip right here.






Or a variation of it.

The reason,it is repeatable andit createsvery little torque.;)

Matt/TN 02-05-2009 07:10 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
I've never thought too much about my grip. I'm trying to find a good picture of it.

Give me a few :D

EDIT: Honestly, I couldn't find a good picture of my grip.

Matt/TN 02-05-2009 07:42 PM

RE: **So, How's my form? UPDATED** PG 1
 
Found some of me too. Might be flawed. Who knows. It looks funny on both of them to be. The camo bow has no shelf so it makes it funny. The silver bow, I'm not sure thats a good picture of it. Looks like it has tension.









More grip pictures from the industry's best ;)











And finally, probably the best aimer/shooter right now



As you can see, not even the Pro's do everything text book. Within reason, grip and form, as long as it's repeatable, is ok. Within reason though, you can't be giving the bow a death grip.


I also took all these pictures :D


Well other than the ones of me.;)


TFOX 02-05-2009 08:47 PM

RE: So, How's my form?
 


ORIGINAL: TFOX

My grip is a closed but relaxed grip.I can't use the prefered grip by many because it causes pain in my hand if I do.So I have found a happy medium that doesn't cause any torque.;)


Hey matt,those grips are very similar to this aren't they.[8D]

ijimmy 02-12-2009 07:02 AM

RE: So, How's my form?
 
Just trying to help

You asked , I gave my honest opinion
Improvements in form make for improvements in shooting

All of us can improve , or be satisfied being so so , its up to you


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