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Ok so I got everything redone on my bow except for the sights. I am looking into 3 sights mainly: Sword 3rd plane, sure loc lethal weapon, or a Spot Hogg Hog it. Anyone got any suggestions? Opinions and why please.

Oh and I can now vouch for Micheal Deck at Terminal Velocity (taught by Crackers). He installed my VTX strings and a Limbdriver. 1 shot perfect bullethole. 328 fps with 350gr and 303fps with 420gr aroow. Guess those tuners like crackers and micheal aren't that good huh BC;)

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I only can offer experience with the Spot Hogg. I have been using a Hunter Hogg-it for 3 seasons now and the site has worked flawlessly. I still need to get the wrap kit for mine (came out after I bought mine) but other than that, no complaints at all.

I've also heard good things about the other two you've mentioned as well.

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Yeah I like the Hogg and the lethal weapon but they are so much more money. The Sword is much more cost effective

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You know you can do this stuff yourself don't ya? What black magic do you think they did that we can't do here?

Those guys got a racket going. But whatever gets you thru the night, as long as you think it was money was well spent. I will keep tuning my own and keep my money in my pocket.:D

And think about this. A compound bow is a dynamic thing. One can squeeze out every fps and guess what? Things change over time.

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No i agree that I probably could do it all myself. But to have it tuned to perfection for under and a strings put on for under $50 cause I know my bow is shooting its best. Also I would rather spend $50 once every 2 or 3 years for a proper tune than spend the well over $500 on all the equipment needed for what Micheal did

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Back to the opinions about which sights. Lets not get in a pissing contest. Any experience with these sights anyone

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Ihave two hunter hogg-its. They are sturdy as a rock and very adjustable. Likely have one of these on my deer bow for the forseeable future.

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No contests as you say. You felt it necassary to call me out in this thread. And I just replied.

What did you expect? Your on a bow tech page. Not a "lets ship my bow to a pro-shop and have techs work on it" page.

It would be about the same going to the reloading page and telling them your experience buying ammo built up by some other reloader and you shooting it. I am just saying.

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Tfox, hasboth of the Swords. He has the twilight hunter, and the 3rd plane one.I believehe told me he likes the twilight sight better. PM him about them.

For a 314-322fps bow to get328, thatis sweet. And for 50$, i like you, think its well worth it.

Derek

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Sword Twilight Hunter Sight

I've used this for my 1st season this year and love it. Used the spot Hogg before and you can't go wrong there either. I tried a mid priced sight this year as I was doing a review for a mid priced bow.Well I'm impressed with the Sword sight andam sure you will too. Strong as hell in the bush and the pins are protected.The light has 3 different settings for brightness too, which is good.Best of luck searching. Paid $97 for it,so it's about 40 bucks cheaper than a Hogg
Rocky

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It has been my understanding that going from stock strings to something like Vapor Trails would give you an extra 6-10 FPS which may explain the increase more than a "super tune". I'll save my $50 and spend it on something cool like a RAM spine tester.

I do wonder, though, if a bow is tuned to shoot most efficiently how it can be "super tuned"? It seems to me that a bow is tuned or it isn't and,how "super tuning" gains more FPS at the same string,DW, ATA and BH, cam timingas "regular" tuning just doesn't seem logical. I would be interested in seeing those measurements of a bow tuned "regularly" and shooting bullet holes and those measurements after it has been "super tuned".

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I agree derek -- certain people on here are just jelous they can't do what others can with the same equipment.

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Ok really enough about the supertuning -- back to the questions about the sight. Althought the twilight hunter is appealing I am looking for a dovetail mount.

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But that's just it, they can ;). Why would anyone be jealous of 10-15fps? That's just ridiculous :eek:.

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Man some of you really know how to ruin a forum. So much for archers helping archersor archers respecting archers. If so many people can do it then why don't they just open their own shop as well and HELP other archers that don't have the equipment readily available? Some of you have turned this into nothing but a di** measuring contest.....and sorry to tell ya but currently Micheal Deck is in the lead in my books. :D

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You started this thread about sights but MOST of your post is a slam against do-it-yourselfers :eek:. So many people can do it but they don't want to make it a JOB and take money from suc...er, people that can't do it ;). Actually a lot of us do it for our friends and we don't even charge them [:-].

Is it helping archers telling them they need to spend money getting their bow "super tuned" for an extra 10 FPS or is it helping archers telling them they can do it themselves and in the process of doing it themselves they can learn a whole lot more about archery than who may be the best "super tuner" currently :eek:.

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I love my Spot-Hogg Hogg-It with wrap. I also love working on my own gear. And in my humble opinion tuned is tuned. Either it is or it isn't.

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Yeah it is helping an archery telling him to go get his bow porperly tuned when he doesn't have a good shop around or can't afford to buy the equipment neccesary to do a proper tuning. Heck I could tune my own bow if I really wanted -- its not rocket science -- however, I don't have a press to do some of the things needed for a full tune; and a half -azz job is not satisfactory to me. All this crap started when I mentioned to some guy about going to Crackers in MO because he needed help and said he didn't have a good shop nearby -- soI simply give him a reference of someone who is highly thought of in the industry and SOME of the DIY-ers get your panties all in a bunch. I in no way stated that he was better than anyone else at first -- I simply made a reference -- then ya'll got your feelings hurt and started getting offensive -- so I argued back. I have no problem with DIY-ers, I wish I could afford the equipment so then I can start tinkering a little more. But until then I will keep taking my bow to Micheal Deck and gettin above factory IBO speeds.

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I started out going to a shop because I didn't know crap from apple butter when it came to my gear. I paid attention when I was there and I paid attention here. I'm in no way faulting you for using a shop. I hope my post didn't come across that way.
I started buying my shop equipment a bit at a time. I bought a Bowmender press because they work great and were reasonably priced. I picked up a littlebit here and there,(both knowledge and gear), until I became pretty self sufficient. I still don't have everything I want or need but I'll tell ya what, there is a great feeling of satisfaction when you do what it takes to get that perfect bullet hole tear all on your own.

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I don't see the need to press a bow to tune it but if you do:

BOWMASTER BOW PRESS AND PARALLEL BRACKET KIT - $44.95

Now you can "super tune" it yourself for less than the cost of one visit. Plus you can "super tune" it whenever you want, pay yourself $50, and use that money to buy more equipment ;).

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Is that right? You ought to show us then:D

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You tell him to tune his own bow, and then when he says he probably could if he had teh resources you say that![&:] Just drop it for the love of god. Like little kids. Its not really that important either way is it really??? As long as everyone is happy, who cares.

Just b/c i tell you that you can save big money by tuning your own cars, would some of you really go out and buy the equipment to do it?
Derek

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Then why do you care? I am just saying, you can quit reading anytime you want. Doesn't that make sense? Aren't you coming on here "acting like little kids"?

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Makes perfect sense. I guess im not as good as Dr. Phil. Just trying to moderate a little peace here.Cant win with everybody.
Derek

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Single pin rear sliders HHA is the ticket.

For a Multi-pin sight The Hogg-It or Hogg-It Hunter with a Hogg Wrap is as good as it gets.

Spot Hogg does have some new single pin sights I'll take a close look at this year, but they'll have to be sweet to root the HHA's off my bows.

Dan

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I wish a shop local to me had spott hogg sights. With all of the great word on them i would like to see/try one. I just dont wanna buy a sight like that w/out ever seeing it.
Derek

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I am sorry but you did it with the opening statement.

I would much rather a super tuner come back to me and say my bow is the most forgiving bow he has ever had on his machine than to tell me it is the fastest.Which I have had happen.:D


I like the dovetail model better than the fixed bar model but I was going for light and I already had a dovetail model so it seemed senseless to me to spend the extra cash when I already had one on my backup bow.I also changed the pin sizes from .010 on the dovetail model to .019 for my hunting site buteverything betweeen my 2 sites is interchangeable so I went the cheaper and lighter route with my 2nd site.

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I would vote for the SH sights.

They are just about bullet proof.
You may get another sight in the future, but you will never need to.

All of my hunting rigs for the last 5 years have worn them and I have never had a single problem.

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I followed MeanV's advise and bought the hunter hogg-it with the wrap. Send Dan a pm and I bet that he can beat anyones price. I'm pretty sure that he carries both HHA and Spot Hogg.

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You're right! There are not many brands I don't carry!:D

Dan