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stinky1 04-10-2003 09:48 AM

High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
Got to try a couple of High Country' s new bows at the Wisconsin Deer and Turykey Expo. Shot one at the 3 grains per pound, felt a bit brave at the time. I forget the name of the bow, but it was one with their new single cam. Shot it with one of their 3 grain per # carbon arrow. That thing had quite a bit of hand shock. Has anybody else had a chance to try these things out? What did you think.

Rack-attack 04-10-2003 10:07 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I think there new " Marketing scam" is well......a scam[:o]:D

I do however like the looks of there new vertical drop rest - looks like a little zero effect / drop zone hybrid.

I just e-mailed them to find out if it is out yet.

Trushot_archer 04-10-2003 10:36 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
The " marketing Scam" reeks of a company desperate for market shares to me...makes me leery of the cutomer service in the future. Are they going to BE there next year??

stinky1 04-10-2003 11:46 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I' m not saying that their bows aren' t quality. I' d have to own one for a couple years before commenting on that. I do like the carbon risers. Very light bows and if carbon can be used for the exotic car frames and other high-tec applications then I don' t see why they couldn' t hold up for a riser.

Unless you' re planning on shooting pretty far without knowing the distance, I just don' t know why you would want to put your bow(and yourself) through the punishment of 3 gr per #. I would have liked to try it out with a heavier arrow but they were pushing the 3 gr per # bit.

Bigpapascout 04-10-2003 12:19 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I shot one at the ATA show in Indy and I did not like it at all!
I wont buy a bow because if some shady underhanded things that spencer has done in the past with a cam design he bought from a company and never paid for. plus the customer service dept is already the lousiest in the industry.
nothing personal aginst the company I just dont trust them.

fastpassthrough 04-10-2003 03:01 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
Everyone has an opinion!

Todd1700 04-10-2003 03:45 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I don' t care what they say at 3grs per lb sooner or later that babies gonna blow. Maybe they could sell a free life insurance policy with each bow.

fastpassthrough 04-10-2003 04:11 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
the bows were actually shot at 3.5 grains per pounds and the whole deal about the dry fire machine was to show what the carbon risers would take the 3.5 is what the bow is rated for and is very shootable take a competitors bow and shoot it it will be fast but it defiantly will vibrate you to death and can not absorb the lite weight arrows like the carbon does. there not trying to get everyone out there shooting that light weight stuff but if you want to it is ok

Rack-attack 04-10-2003 07:32 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 

there not trying to get everyone out there shooting that light weight stuff but if you want to it is ok
O.K.??? Yea the riser can take it, most good alum can also. But how about the strings, and the axles - are they super carbon also?????

If the string blows - AND IT WILL - kiss the whole bow, and half your face goodbye[:o][:' (]

Maybe next year they will market the cam and 1/2 your face[:o]:D:D:D

jsager 04-10-2003 08:16 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I bought a HighCountry SSR back in january it was a 2002 left over,The reason i even looked into trying it out was the price on it,they had it marked down from $500 to $349 but after i picked it up and shot it i really liked it,it had a little hand jump to it but not as much as some of the other bows i' ve owned.It' s got the carbon riser,it' s 31" ata,weighs 2.45#s i have it set at 29" draw lenghth at 70#s and shoot a 374 grain arrow.It shoots good for me and is pretty quiet,some of the things i' m not real happy with is the small sight window and the holes tapped for the accesories strip out real easy so now i have to use longer screws than what normaly come with the sights,i see the new 2003 models have brass inserts in them.But all in all i' m happy with it.

Buck Magnet 04-10-2003 08:19 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
Cam and a half your face. :D:D:D:D:D That has to be the funniest thing that I have ever heard.

I vote that we have a part in the chat room called " rack Attacks Stand Up Hour" :D

As far as the bows go, they aren' t anything special in my book. They claim super fast speeds while using these ULTRA SUPER LIGHT arrows, so, how is that not marketing these for shooting light arrows?

According to the 3 grains euqals 1 f.p.s. rule, a BK II shooting 3 grains per pound, set at 70 pounds, would shoot 396 f.p.s.

I heard somewhere that they said they had a bow that they were comming out with that was shooting 475 f.p.s. I am not sure if this is true, but, if you take this as 70 pound draw using a 3 grain per pound arrow, there is a 140 grain difference. For every three grains you add, you loose 1 foot per second. That is a speed difference of 46.6 f.p.s. So, take that 475 f.p.s. and nock off that 46.6 f.p.s. for the extra 140 grains off arrow, and you get a actual IBO speed of 428 f.p.s. Like I said, this 475 f.p.s. bow could be a pure rumor, as I am not sure where I heard it or if it was true, but, if they claim this, then, I just don' t see why they would ever want to advertise these 3 grains per pound campaigns.

I know that they have claimed bows at shooting 375 f.p.s. Using this same 140 grain difference than the 5 grains per second, there is a 46.6 f.p.s. difference. Knock that off and you get a bow shooting 328.333333 f.p.s. VERY Impressive, but, it still isn' t as fast as a BK II.

If I would see these bows advertised with TRUE IBO speeds, and if there were tests done prooving their durability, and everything came out positive, I might go get my hands on one and try it out, but, I don' t think that either of these two things will happen

fastpassthrough 04-11-2003 07:46 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
once again that is what the dry fire machine was trying to show the public that the carbon can take dry fire after dry fire and you can get from 500 -900 dry fires before a string would brake i have personally done these tests and many more oh and i have also tested the bk2 and at 3.5 grain per pound it did shoot about the same but this is the point that they are pushing is the bk2 is unshootable at that light of arrow loud and vibrates afull were the carbon absorbs and is totaly shootable with the perfx cam and not only has the bk2 been tested there are several more to see how they compare so this stuff is not some crazy marketing campaign that is made up this stuff has been throughly tested and with the test they offer a lifetime warranty on the bow !

c4extrem 04-13-2003 08:42 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
I got a SSR 14" limb pro perfx cam
I set it up at 70#s 29" draw (that' s my draw length) 358g arrow closes to 350g I could get it shot 308fps. this bow is very quiet I shoot in doors all you here is the arrow hitting the target
If you get the chance to shoot one, try it, you will be impressed
I shoot the duel cam at Indy at over 400fps & the perfx cam at 376fps with the arrow at 225g
Greg

walks with a gimp 04-13-2003 02:46 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
No thanks, I' ll take a 5 pound hunting setup shooting mid to heavy weight arrows with lots of K.E. and not worry about getting a scalp treatment from a flying limb. Accuracy suffers when most bows get below 3.5 pounds IMO and when I want to make a good shot count I want the bow to be steady and hold well. Ever been hunting in a tree stand when the wind is blowing? That is when every ounce counts;)

Grant-KS 04-14-2003 08:51 AM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
At the ATA show, Kevin Strother, VP of Bowtech, after seeing what HC was doing, took an Extreme VFT, set it up with the same gr./lb. ratio, and shot it through the chrono........427 fps! LOL

Trushot_archer 04-14-2003 01:05 PM

RE: High Country 3 gr per #bows
 
You can shoot a deer with a toothpick at light speed and it' ll still run off. I' ll take my 7+ gr/lb and enjoy jerky, and Venison Neck and green chili Tacos and Sausage and backstrap sandwiches and.....:D


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