Nah, you don't want IBO and AMO. They used to show both numbers, but because everybody got so obsessed with speed the manufacturers jumped on thre bandwagon and quit listing AMO speeds. Basically the difference is that IBO is figured at 5 gr/lb while AMO is at 9 gr/lb; 30"/70# and 30"/60# respectively.

How about we make some real practical changes? How about bow speed rated at 28" (closer to average than 30") and 65# (middle ground?). All bows physically measured for draw length and weighed. How about random testing by a 3rd party? Just pull one off the production line and test it.

How about we change draw length measurements as it is computed today. How about just measuring "true draw" and being done with it. True draw being apex of the string to the deepest part of the grip. Why do we need to add 1.75"? What's the point?

How about we do away with the term "Berger hole"? Seriously, Vic Berger came up with a great idea with the plunger, but when was the last time you saw a real life Berger Button Plunger sticking through a riser (I still have a couple). And I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the shooters today don't even know where the term "Berger" originated.

I actually shot with a guys a few years ago at a national asa shoot in the open b class that was shooting a springy rest with a button plunger on his field archery bow that he was using in the 3-d comp because it met the asa speed rule.HE WON THE WHOLE THING.SO,we can't do away with it yet.


We can't can't change the draw length specs,our manly egos would be hurt if we found out that we were actually 1 3/4" shorter than we thought we were.[8D]


I like the idea of a middle ground speed.I happen to shoot 28" but I would be ok with 28 1/2" at 65 or even 60#.