GRIM REAPER VS. RAGE
 

which one would you chose?

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3 blade rage for me. Im 3for3 with them this year. Until I have a failure, i will support and stick with them. Devastating wounds with quick recoveries, and supreme accuracy are my results so far. Ive had great results with them and have reaped the benefits of them this season. I have no say on the other though. Never used them. You will hear good and bad about both. Best just to give one a try and see how they work out.
Derek

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I have no experence with the rage but my son has been using the Reapers for 5 seasons. He is 12 for 12 on deer hit with them. Yes he has missed but every deer hit was down quickly. This was my first season using them. I have always fought using them as I was a hard core fixed head guy. Well this next season will be the first time in a long time where I will NOT be trying something else. I will be sticking with the Reapers. I got one deer at 38 yards, a turkey at 51 and the head just destroyed that birdas it went only 5 yards and died and I got a fox at 43 yards. Very accurate head and very dependable.

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I have only shot the rages personally and have hade nothing but great success from them massive blood trails quick recoveries. The only deer i have ever seen shot with a grim reaper was directly spined between the shoulder blades and it bent the broadhead itself. But that is a very tough spot on a deer and probably more hunters bad shoot than broadhead faliure.

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I started with Grim Reapers last year and I see no need to change. Every deer that I've shot with them in the past two years (total is 9) has died quickly. The realup side to me in shooting the Reapers after reading quite a few different threads on here is that every one of my 9 kill shots has been a complete pass-through and in the dirt. I have an exit wound AND an arrow to look at and judge when I climb down.

The down side to the Grim Reapers is two-fold. First, the entry wound. In all honesty, the entrywound is, well,... pretty pathetic. The exit hole, however, is devastating. Second, they're not that sharp. It's a good idea to touch them up, but it's a p.i.t.a. to sharpen them. It's worth it, but it's difficult.

The Rage, from all acounts, seems to be an outstanding and devastating broadhead, but there have been quite reports from guys shooting good bow setups who haven't been getting pass-throughs.

To each his own of course, but as for me,I'll take a small entry wound, huge exit wound and a pass-through over apossible, and I emphasize"possible"huge entry wound and no exit wound with the arrow running away with the deer.

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Thats why i shoot the 3blades:DMore penetration and cutting surface.
Derek

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I'm on record as really disliking the rage design so if you must go with a mechanical and not a fiixed headthen Reapers hands down. I tested both, the reapers blades are much muchstronger than the rage and the heads stay together in the quiver unlike the rage heads. The rage blades break if they come into contact with bone, they work fine on perfect hits but on marginal hits, they break and it's on the marginal hits that you need the cutting power more than anything. There wereseveral exampleson this site alone this year where people hit the front shoulder on quartering frontal shots and the rageblades broke off beforemaking it into the boiler room.

Another thing to consider on the rage,lets say you shoot, make a marginal hit or miss and get the opportunity at a second shot, are you going to have time to pull an arrow out of your quiver,reset it's blades like you have to before putting the arrow on your bow and firing thesecond shot? Ihighly doubt it.

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When death comes knocking, who do you turn too?

GRIM REAPER!

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I have had two marginal shot experiences with my 3 blades this year. One was a direct shoulder shot, partially quartering too me. The arrow stuck in the opposite shoulder, no pass through. I honestly wouldnt expect many to pass through on that shot so... The deer went 45 yards. The arrow broke off and i didnt have a blood trail but... I watched her eat the ground so it didnt matter.-The other time, was my first doe of the season. She was hard quartering away, hit multiple ribs etc. and she went down in 50 yards. Complete pass thru. That one, I had a blade bent and was unusable. There was a massive blood trail. The other shot on my buck wasnt a marginal shot so i wont speak of that one.

Thats two of the marginal/awkward hits and both brought the deer down in my sight. No broken blades, no lost deer or fault in the broadheads part. The one bent blade imo is very acceptable for the angle the shot was on the deer. The arrow caught liver and both lungs so you can imagine how far it traveled through her. Im not arguing here or promoting the rage, these are just my experiences from this year and are factual accounts that i can let you see. Not trying to start a mechanical vs. whatever thread or anything.

Btw, I do like your idea Dopler about pulling out an arrow for a second shot. I will not disagree about the blades getting loose. They do have a tendancy to come loose. I use a hip quiver so that doesnt happen, but they are certainly harder to secure than most mechanical heads.
Derek

p.s. keep in mind i am using the 3blades. Many of the people (most from my memory) have hhad the major problems with the 2 blades. That is why i wont shoot them.

Here is a link to my deer killed this year. Please excuse that its my myspace link. I just find its the easiest way for me to share photos.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID =54069651&albumId=2319464

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I used 100gr Gim Reapers this yr for first timeand my 8pt didn't go more than 50yds from tree. Double lung. I'am going to also trying 2 blade Rage, for late season. Had good blood from were he was standing all the way to him didn't need it and didn't have complete pass through.

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Reapers for me. I watched that video and just had to get myself a set to try. Worked for me this season (1/1).

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Reapers for me!!! I shot 4 deer this year and the farthest one that ran after was 40 yards.. Walt

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Read my signature :Danother vote for the reapers

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With much prodding, and to be as impartial as possible, I've decided to try the Rage 2 blade for the late season. So far I've found itto be an extremely well constructed, sharp, and dead nuts accurate broadhead. I have a feeling, with a good conservative broadside shot, I'll put alot of meat (and blood) on the ground.

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What kind of speed/KE are you seeing doegirl??? I ask b/c the rage 2blades really require a high amount of KE to get good penetration, and your sig says doeGIRL so I ASSume that you are shooting a lower poundage setup. Im not trying to sway you to shoot something different by any means (i shoot rage as well).
Derek

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hehehe-47ftlbs KE.;) Believe me, any shot I take will be under 25yds, broadside only.

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I blow those Reapers into hogs, they are the only mechanical that I have used so far, and they are 4/4 on hogs.

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At least you knowwhat to expect. Im not trying to tell you what to do, but i would say 90% that you arent going to get a pass thru. I wouldnt expect it with that kind of KE, BUT...It is very common and most of the people that dont get pass thrus still find the deer as long as shot placement is good.

I shot adoe directly in the shoulder with my 101st (72#KE@61#'s) with my 3blades and didnt get a pass thru, but I found her 35 yards away.

I wish youthe best of luck with them.
Derek

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Thanks

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I like rage. When i shot my deer with the rage this year it droped it in its tracts

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I use my Grim Reaper 100gr Razortips for everything.

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Well, I'm now a believer. I tested the rage at a hunting preserve. My line of thinking is, if I got horrid penetration, I stood a better chance retrieving the animal under high fence. The Rage performed wonderful and I harvested a beautiful ram. For deer sized game, I'll use the Rage without hesitation for now on...

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Congrats!!! Im glad it worked well for you:D
Derek

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See, this is the funny part for guys like me. We have never had to have these failure threads about thunderheads, or phantoms or bear fixed broadheads. You either hit the animal in the vitals and find him or you didn't hit him in the vitals. Everybody is looking for the newest whizbang I guess.

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While I No longer shoot mechanicals. I did go through that phase and killed approx. 40 animals with mechanicals of various brands. Most of the time they work Great, but one failure is one too many and I No longer see the advantage in taking the risk.
I have also shared many hunts with customers and friends who have used mechanicals. I would rate them as follows.
1. Spitfire XP (The New Maxx Spitfire should be Awesome provided you have the horses to shoot it)
2. Grim Reapers
3. Rage

I put Rage 3rd because honestly it seems guys I know who have hands on experience with them either Love them or Hate them and feedback is close to 50/50 in my area.

Dan

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I went thru the stage too aound 1999-2001. But a properly tuned bow, I found no need. And found penetration issues. But I also dont see the need for 10 dollars/BH either. Thunderheads or the old muzzys will do just as well.

I just find it comical that people still buy something that has such contradictory reports.